Sick day proposal for Eau Claire schools

(WEAU) - "The only person that likes change is a baby with a wet diaper," said Ronald Martin, President of Eau Claire Association of Educators.

Changes are in the works for the Eau Claire School District as board members continue to work on the employee handbook. One proposal that may pan out is changing the amount of staff sick days.

“Everything is reliant upon an employee handbook and that's really what we’re working on with our administration,” said Martin.

Eau Claire Schools Superintendent Dr. Ron Heilmann says that dropping sick days from 12 to 10 may benefit the districts spending.

“You could make the argument you have 2 days times however many 10 month employees that the district would not be obligated to pay,” said Superintendent Dr. Ron Heilmann.

Meanwhile Ronald Martin of the Eau Claire Association of Educators wants to know if there has been an abuse of sick days made by staff or if there will in fact be a cost savings benefit.

“If it truly is a cost savings measure for the district, we have no problem with that, we know we have to make cuts here and there,” said Martin.

School Board President Carol Craig says the board wants to keep fairness and equity between employees since one day off for every month that person works has been standard.

Meanwhile the board also proposed another alternative for employees taking time off.

"There also was a discussion of combining sick days and personal days into time off duty or TOD, or paid time off," said Heilmann.

Either way a teacher can still accumulate up to 120 sick days, but that does not mean they will receive a payout.

The school board still has yet to decide whether the proposal for the sick day reduction will still go through.


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  • by brian Location: ec on Mar 7, 2012 at 06:35 AM
    Teachers are good people and their job is important to society. Teachers are also smart with one exception-They believe the union. The union gives them a bad rap. Teachers-Keep your union dues for yourselves and boycott the union. They are no good. You don't need them like they tell you. They are only interested in taking OUR money (taxpayers and yours)
  • by MIke Location: EC on Mar 5, 2012 at 06:13 PM
    My brother works for ECASD and he used much of three months of his sick days he had banked for paternity leave.My sister in law used her three months then he used his. They planned this out so she would have the child during the school year. Now he said whenever the kids are sick he can call in sick and use more days. Its a win win really. He said he is grateful to the taxpayers
  • by tj on Mar 5, 2012 at 05:59 AM
    Ok, I didn't read all the comments, so forgive me if I duplicate. So, most teachers work 8 months per year when you figure in breaks, holiday etc. So this would be 8 sick days earned, if the goal is to give 1 day per month. And how can the sick days possible be abused? If you get 12, you get 12, right? Any more than that would qualify for disiplinary action, unless you use disability time of some sort. My company has "personal days". They are used for sick, desired time off, snow days etc. But, we are only allow to build up to 200 hours, not 960 hours. That is completey crazy. Why do they possibly need 960 (120 days) of sick time? Don't they have short/long term disability to cover extended illnesses? These techers are getting more personal time than any private sector employee that works 12 months per year. Oh, and many schedule their surgery's etc. during the school year, so they get covered by disability, and do not ruin their summer off. So, yes, the teachers have it good. Always have, always will. The way it sounds though is that there may be many openings coming up soon for the teachers that do not want to take less. So, if your complaining, and feeling left out of the bennies, you would be smart to start pursuing a degree in education. Or a 4 year degree of any type qualify's you for a sub position, I am considering...
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      by Ann on Mar 5, 2012 at 10:52 AM in reply to tj
      I am considering... I bet you won't. I bet a LOT you won't. All talk, no show. Just like most people bashing how good teacher's have it. You all seem to forget, the grass is always greener till you actually get there.
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      by Anonymous on Mar 5, 2012 at 03:44 PM in reply to tj
      Hey...you're right! While we are at it, a surgeon makes more than me, AND has MUCH better benefits! It's not fair!! If only we could elect someone who would make everything equal. How do we go about doing that?
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        by tj on Mar 6, 2012 at 05:45 AM in reply to
        It sure doesn't take much to bring out the child in all of you anonymous bloggers. Not once did I say everything should be fair. We all know that is not going to happen. The past 8 years is a prime example of utter un-fairness. So, is it now the teachers turn to start their contributions? Absolutely. Nothing personal, just sick of how one sided everything has been in the past, and also tired of how terrible you all say your jobs are. Oh, and comparing yourself to a surgeon is a bit much, don't ya think?
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      by Pegi on Mar 6, 2012 at 09:26 AM in reply to tj
      You must look at what other comparibles -district of our sizes are doing. You can only use 2 sick days for children. That is it. Being a teacher is the lowest paying job with a college degree. The average beginning pay for a college grad.is $50,000. Teachers atart at $28-35 depending where you are in WI. No, it is ot covered by short term dis. and you get long term after 90 days off-and then that is a fight. Good teachers that are getting out of college are NOT staying in WI. EC also gets one personal day per year and that is it. You are so uniformed, there is not enough time to even eplain it. Teachers also work 9 1/2 months, not eight -and we put in a ton of extra time, as well as go back to school all the time. Instad of salary, teachers negotiated health and retirement-which is why they start at $28-35,00 and not $50,000 like the ave. college grad who will start at this and get these benefits in the private sector. So sad you don't get it at all.WHen teachers get to 1200, they give days back and they also get NOTHING fir those days when they retire.
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        by Eau Really on Mar 7, 2012 at 11:46 AM in reply to Pegi
        Your true colors are showing. Did your HS guidance consoler tell you that you don't get rich teaching? Maybe you should have gone for a different degree if you wanted the average new grad pay. Some fields, like the STEMs for example, have much higher than the average, so you may be more close to your peers than you think. Now, as for you not getting anything after you go over 120 sick days. Quit complaining. Most people have "use or lose" sick days every year and aren't paid anything for their unused sick days. I've been in the work force 30 years and never taken more than 3 days a year sick time (most years none). I don't feel owed time or money for that. I come from a family that has had grandparents, aunts, uncles, and cousins that are teachers. I never heard any of them complain about not making as much money as someone they went to college with. I guess for you it isn't about the kids, since you mentioned your starting salary more than once.
  • by Ralf on Mar 5, 2012 at 05:53 AM
    Teachers need all of this sick time, maybe more. Should they be expected to go to Madison to protest on their own time?
  • by Anonymous on Mar 5, 2012 at 04:18 AM
    Boycott these comment boards. They are divisive and full of hate. Just read the comments below. They live.
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      by Anonymous on Mar 5, 2012 at 10:02 AM in reply to
      Are you saying we aren't allowed the right to our own opionion? Freedom of speech? Easy to spew hatred but not so easy to have it thown at ya, is it??
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        by Julie on Mar 5, 2012 at 03:44 PM in reply to
        Funny how you knew EXACTLY which side they were talking about. Pretty telling...and sad.
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        by Anonymous on Mar 5, 2012 at 08:19 PM in reply to
        Boycott
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      by y on Mar 6, 2012 at 05:46 AM in reply to
      I agree. You should boycott them, starting right now.
  • by Colleen Location: Eau Claire on Mar 4, 2012 at 09:08 PM
    It is obvious that some staff will abuse sick days. Under the new handbook, it will be easier to eliminate staff who take too many sick days.
  • by Don on Mar 4, 2012 at 07:46 PM
    Not sure how the Eau Claire School District works but most places offer their employees short term disability insurance and often pay the premium. There are also state family medical laws that help to protect individuals from loosing their job if they do indeed have a serious medical condition requiring time off of work just like time off for child birth and I believe it legally has to be offered not only to the mother but also the father. Offering that many paid sick days seems redundant since someone is already or should be paying insurance for this purpose. The bad part is not only is the district paying someone who has not been able to or desired to come to work, but also must pay someone else to take their place. I feel that 5 sick days should be ample since that will cover the usual waiting period most disability plans require before benefits can be collected. I can see where this could save the district some money since the resource may already be there and could be used and still would not be taking away an intended benefit.
  • by Jay on Mar 4, 2012 at 06:30 PM
    Could these people whine and complain a little bit more. If you are unsatisfied with your job or benefits, perhaps you should look at another field. Nobody made you be a teacher. Get over yourselves.
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      by Anonymous on Mar 5, 2012 at 04:00 AM in reply to Jay
      I agree as long as you are also talking to the people who think that public employees get to much. They to can better themselves instead of pulling someone else down.
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        by Jay on Mar 5, 2012 at 07:15 AM in reply to
        What makes you think I'm not doing better. I love my job. I love my benefits. I have never complained we don't get enough sick days..and I don't get 'winter break', 'spring break' and 3 months off in the summer. I have dear friends and family that are teacher and I love them to death..but, all they do is complain.
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          by Ann on Mar 5, 2012 at 10:55 AM in reply to Jay
          Has your profession been demonized and made out to be the source of all the states problems by our govenor?
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          by Anonymous on Mar 5, 2012 at 03:47 PM in reply to Jay
          Oh..I don't know..sounds like you WERE complaining for a second there...with all of your 'quotations' and all.
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          by Anonymous on Mar 5, 2012 at 05:41 PM in reply to Jay
          Where sir did you see me question you and your job satisfaction in my post? Furthermore I said public employees which encompasses far more people than just teachers.
  • by Anon. on Mar 4, 2012 at 06:05 PM
    I think most teachers will tell you that it is more work tsking sick leave and preparing for a sub vs. going in not feeling 100%. They can't just call in and say "I'll be back when I feel better" as with many jobs.
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      by hh on Mar 5, 2012 at 06:02 AM in reply to Anon.
      Really? My kids teachers doesn't seem to have a problem taking unscheduled time off. Of course, there is always at least one intern to help the sub get through the day.
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        by Anon. on Mar 5, 2012 at 09:09 AM in reply to hh
        I said "most" teachers. Joseph has it right--easier to go in vs. all the extra time involved being gone.
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      by Joseph on Mar 5, 2012 at 06:49 AM in reply to Anon.
      You are 100% correct. As a teacher I hate using sick days. Planning for a sub, getting caught up once you return - it's nearly twice the work compared to being there. It's easier to just go in while sick.
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        by hh on Mar 5, 2012 at 01:45 PM in reply to Joseph
        Why are the 12 sick days needed then?
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          by Anon. on Mar 6, 2012 at 06:36 AM in reply to hh
          Because, hh, sometimes you just need to take sick leave for the benefit of the kids and other staff. Many kids are sent to school sick for ths staff there to take care of instead of staying home. Yeh, it happens . Teacher and staff are exposed to all sorts of illnesses all of the time. That's why!
  • by Boycott on Mar 4, 2012 at 01:41 PM
    I am calling all teachers to boycott these comment boards. Let the people who complain have these boards to themselves. Not a good place to share a rational argument.
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      by tj on Mar 5, 2012 at 05:43 AM in reply to Boycott
      No one is making you read these boards. YOU go ahead and boycott them if you want. Bye, bye.
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        by Anonymous on Mar 5, 2012 at 03:48 PM in reply to tj
        Way to prove their point
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