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Teen Driver Charged With Drinking Before Double Fatal Crash Arrested For Drinking Again Save Email Print
Posted: 9:33 AM Oct 15, 2008
Last Updated: 3:41 PM Oct 16, 2008
Reporter: WEAU 13 Staff
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The 17-year-old boy who was charged with intoxicated driving in a crash that killed two of his friends was found at a house party and admitted he had been drinking.

Eau Claire County District Attorney Rich White says David O. Jacobson was arrested in Eau Claire on Monday after he was found drinking at a house party at 444 Garfield Avenue. According to court documents, Jacobson was found hiding behind a couch and admitted he had been drinking and knew it was wrong.

The sister of one of the two men killed in the crash saw Jacobson drinking at the party and called police. The criminal complaint says she saw Jacobson drinking beer and playing beer pong. Micha Hiatt called police and told them that Jacobson had been charged with homicide for her brother’s death and that Jacobson was drinking and out past 10 p.m.

Officers got to the house and found Jacobson hiding behind a couch. A preliminary breath test showed Jacobson’s alcohol concentration at 0.112 percent. Investigators say Jacobson told officers he knew he wasn’t allowed to drink alcohol or be out after 10 p.m.

CLICK HERE to read the criminal complaint for the new felony bail jumping charge.
CLICK HERE to read the original criminal complaint for the fatal crash.

In August, Jacobson was charged with four felony counts after the fatal crash south of Eau Claire. Jacobson was charged with homicide by intoxicated use of a vehicle, homicide by negligent operation of a vehicle, injury by intoxicated use of a vehicle, and reckless driving causing great bodily harm.

The Eau Claire County Sheriff's Department says Jacobson was going between 90 and 100 miles an hour when he came over a hill on Hickory Road south of Eau Claire. Jacobson told deputies he lost control and hit a bunch of trees before rolling his car. He also told them he had been drinking.
19-year-old Michael Hiatt was a passenger in the car and was pronounced dead at the scene. Family members say another passenger, 23-year-old Shawn Loescher from Eau Claire, had been on life support at St. Mary's Hospital in Rochester since the crash August 25. Loescher mother Susan Whiticker says he was taken off life support and died at 11:15 a.m. on September 5.

After the original four felony charges, Jacobson was not allowed to drink alcohol, be in bars or taverns, or drive and had to obey a 10 p.m. curfew.

Now Jacobson faces new charges of felony bail jumping and underage drinking. He is being held in the Eau Claire County Jail on a $25,000 cash bond.

The sheriff's department says it looked like Jacobson was trying to 'jump hills' with his car when he crashed killing his friend and seriously injuring another.

Classmates say Jacobson and Hiatt were close friends and good guys. Both of them were National Guard members and had just returned from basic training.

Hiatt graduated from Osseo-Fairchild High School a year ago. Jacobson is a senior there this year. But Sgt. Carl Duncan says one bad decision changed both their lives forever.

"Sometimes drivers and passengers make poor choices and sometimes those poor choices lead to tragic consequences. They had their whole lives ahead of them, but it only takes one time," says Sgt. Carl Duncan with the Eau Claire County Sheriff’s Department.

Sgt. Duncan says Jacobson was going between 90 and 100 miles an hour when he came over a hill on Hickory Road, south of Eau Claire. He says Jacobson told them he lost control and hit a bunch of trees before rolling his car.

"Mike was a real good person and student. We enjoyed him here. He was known as a good basketball player and a good friend. We're saddened by the news and our thoughts and prayers go out to his family and friends," says Dr. Kerry Jacobson, superintendent of Osseo-Fairchild schools.
Jacobson was released from jail on the original charges on a $5000 cash bond. Jacobson was treated and released from Sacred Heart Hospital the night of the crash.

Jacobson, who was in basic training for the Army National Guard in Georgia, is a senior at Osseo-Fairchild High School this year.

David O. Jacobson
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Posted by: Concerned on Oct 21, 2008 at 02:55 PM
Ashley: You need to know that people are there to support you. Do not worry about what other people are saying....You need to focus on yourself and your family dealing with the healing process. Ignore them....especially when they did not know Mike as much as they thought they did. Take care.

Posted by: Mike's friend Location: eau claire on Oct 20, 2008 at 07:08 PM
This is to "not happy" that is awful you would write that to Ashley about her family...Michael loved his family, and everyone knows that. He loved his friends as well, but his family has known him all his life and that is a bond that we can't touch! I also know that mike talked about his nephew, sisters and parents quite a bit to me...so you need to back off! I know that mike is very angry that you said that...you need to back off it really is none of your business. Besides if you are going to run your mouth and be disrespectful don't be a "coward" who are ya?

Posted by: Anonymous on Oct 19, 2008 at 08:36 PM
Daivd's a coward... Hiding behind a couch when the cops come in seriously... Micha's a great sister she did the right thing and Michael's family WILL do everything we can to get some sort of penalty for David... I just hope he will eventually learn his lesson and realize that drinking killed his friends! I actually felt a little sorry for david but now his total lack of self preservation and respect is sooo not there... Grow Up kid it will do you some good

Posted by: NOT HAPPY on Oct 19, 2008 at 08:04 PM
first off ashley MIchael had hardly any relationship with his family and YOU KNOW IT so quit living a lie

Posted by: Megan on Oct 19, 2008 at 07:32 PM
yes i will fess up and say yes i was not happy with david about a month ago... i told many people that .. but i do also recall micha being on davids side in the begining and not blaming him at first either.. i went to davids house with her.... but this is such a controversial issue that a lot of peoples minds change... just because i am friends with david doesnt mean i dont care about mike and beats and hate what happened to them... god has a reason for everything i believe even though we may never find out what it maybe... so if fingers need to be pointed at me that is fine but no matter what people think i am behind david..

Posted by: REAL SOLDIER Location: WI on Oct 19, 2008 at 04:16 PM
This is for N. How can you be so childish? "He didn't force them in the car"? How ever DAVID'S actions STILL took TWO lives!! It doesn't matter if he had a gun to their heads and forced them in the car. His actions still killed them.

Posted by: Ashley~ Michael's sister Location: Eau Claire on Oct 18, 2008 at 04:54 PM
You really need to think about what you are saying before you post it. When you say that we need to put ourselves in David's shoes, thats a really awful place to be and no one that was close to Michael especially (us)his family owe David anything. David is so upset now about all this and wishes he could trade places, well it's too late for that now isn't it??? Also it really disturbs me that "megan" you would write all that about you are sorry for the family but David is your friend and you are here for him...and i recall you about a month ago sitting at my parents table saying how much you hated him and that he deserved to go to jail...so before you go saying things that may hurt others you need to make up your mind where you stand, cause my family and I are not afraid to say where we stand. We miss Michael very much and like it or not people, we are going to fight for his rights.

Posted by: a old friend Location: ec on Oct 18, 2008 at 12:34 PM
this is for Kendra dont give up on david he loves you alot and he needs you to

Posted by: a old friend Location: Ec on Oct 18, 2008 at 12:30 PM
i love david hes a nice boy and the fact that david is still just a kid 17 but althought yes this is mainly davids fult that he did drink and drove we dont know what went on between the 3 boy that night maybe they wanted david to drive and we will never know it was all there choises to get in that car and i know that the others are in heven praying for david and hoping the best. as being a person that knows a lot of the same people that david did and being old friends w him that over half the people that goes out would deal w the pain the same way david did DAVID we love you i love you and i pray for you and the other familys bc we the loved Shawn and Michael the same

Posted by: A person with COMMON SENSE! Location: WIS on Oct 17, 2008 at 04:14 PM
Alright Kendra, wake up and smell the roses. 2 people are dead and everything kept saying "This will stop david from drinking. He's going to do better and learn from this" Then everyone sits and feels sorry for him cause he sat in his room all day feeling sorry for himself knowing he would trade places with mike and shawn." David is not going to ever learn. Just to get that through everyones head. He has broken rule after rule and there is no end in sight. And besides, what makes someone who has killed two people, think they can go out and drink MORE!? David deserves to go to jail with a maximum sentence. Even if he doesnt learn, it will get him from running free as a bird where he could endanger more people. Micha had every right to call it in. She just might have saved more people. To people that WANT to help david, people at the party should have called him in and not sweep it under the carpet. Prayers are with Mike and Shawns families. I love you micha! You are in right!

Posted by: Megan on Oct 17, 2008 at 03:39 PM
what we need to put into consideration is what David is going through.. none of us can even begin or try to relate to imagine the thoughts that go through his mind every second of everyday... he lost two brothers that day not two best friends... i knew the relationship between those three and they always had one anothers backs no matter what it was. I even recall Mike calling Davids mom "ma" we all make bad decisions at some point in our lives, but david has to live with this for the rest of his life and would put himself in either one of those boys shoes anyday... your in my thoughts everyday David, stay strong

Posted by: n on Oct 17, 2008 at 02:08 PM
to real soldier yes he did get in accident and yes his 2 best friends died but he did not force them in the car.

Posted by: Someones Mom Location: Osseo on Oct 17, 2008 at 11:58 AM
Thank God Micha got David off the road again. Better he sit in jail not killing my kids than out there driving drunk again. And if any of you were Davids real friends, you wouldn't be supporting his drinking. And growing up in Wisconsin does not mean that all there is to do is drink. Doesn't anyone hunt, fish, bowl, bike, walk, swim, skate, skate-board, run, paint, read...shame on those of you too feeble-minded to find an activity other than alcohol.

Posted by: REAL SOLDIER Location: WI on Oct 16, 2008 at 10:07 PM
To DAVIDS FRIEND, you don;'t get the point of this do you? He drank underage, correct? Then he drove drunk, correct? The results of that is 2 people dead, correct? THEN HE TURNS AROUND A COUPLE WEEKS LATER AND DRINKS UNDERAGE AGAIN! What would have stopped him from driving drunk AGAIN? What would have stopped him from getting in ANOTHER accident that could have taken MORE lives? No one is saying that punishing David more will bring anyone back. However, you would think that he would have a little more common sense. David deserves a severe punishment. Not even 2 months after a ACCIDENT (yes I said ACCIDENT) that cost 2 lives happened, He is right back out there underage drinking AGAIN! WHY? Hiatt family, you did the right thing by calling in the party. You have ALL of my respect for it.

Posted by: Kendra on Oct 16, 2008 at 08:49 PM
I love David very much and i have never turned my back on him no matter what he has done. My deepest sympathy goes out to micha and her family. However,just like none of us know what Mikes family is going through, none of us know what David is going through either. I would wake up from texts at 3AM almost every morning from David saying he would do anything, absolutly ANYTHING, to see his boys one more time and to be in their shoes. Obviously, Im going to stick right next to david through everything, but that doesnt mean i don't miss Mike every day and pray for his family, including Micha. Mike would call laura, davids mom, "ma". David and i would make plans to go to a movie or just be together and 90% of the time i would get a call from either David or Mike saying "Nah, sorry Ken, David's goina be with his brother tonight" (meaning Mike.) I'm begging everybody, please, pray for David. Please, just pray for him that he finds strength. Please.

Posted by: Jane Location: Neillsville on Oct 16, 2008 at 08:01 PM
After helping to kill 2 people already, shouldn't he wake up and realize that he has AGAIN made a "stupid mistake"? How many more mistakes must he make before he has made enough and be held responsible for his own actions? How many more people should he kill before he has killed enough? Not only has he made the bad descisions of drinking, he also made the decsisions to drive drunk! He is a prime example of our society saying drinking is not bad for you, you only make mistakes. I wonder how many people have been actually killed because of those mistakes? Some day it just might be a loved one of those who sympathize with him!

Posted by: davids friend. Location: eau claire on Oct 16, 2008 at 04:35 PM
EVERYONE TURNING THEIR BACK ON DAVID WILL NOT BRING MIKE OR SHAWN BACK. WE MUST ACCEPT WHAT HAPPENED. DAVID WILL NOW HAVE TO LIVE WITH WHAT HE DID, WHAT MORE PUNISHMENT CAN ONE ASK FOR? DAVID: YOU ARE IN MY PRAYERS. I'M SURE MIKE AND SHAWN ARE WATCHING OVER YOU, WISHING THAT ALL OF THIS WAS NOT HAPPENEING TO YOU. I FEEL FOR THE HIATT FAMILY. I REALLY DO. BUT TRYING TO GET DAVID BEHIND BARS FOR THE REST OF HIS LIFE WILL NOT BRING YOUR SON BACK. LET DAVID LIVE HIS LIFE TO THE FULLEST, FOR DAVID. < 3

Posted by: n Location: wisconsin on Oct 16, 2008 at 03:19 PM
okay. for one. david wasnt in the right to be at that party by any means. but 2 micha had no right being at that party either. shes underage just like him. David does deserve to get something but he really is a good kid and wants to do better in life. i love you david!

Posted by: kasey Location: osseo on Oct 16, 2008 at 03:04 PM
To REAL SOLDIER, you get it....you must have good parents!! Laws are put in place to protect us, but they only work if people follow them. When you break the law and get a slap on the hand, maybe it is not enough. If you don't break the laws, then you don't have to worry about them being tougher. Too many parents are not "parenting." They are more concerned about their kids being "cool", or just too busy with their own lives. Kids do have their own minds, but they are easily taught right from wrong at a very early age. I have lots of friends who let their kids do "whatever" because after all they are"just kids," and all kids drink, drive crazy, ect. Guess what? I have 3 teens and they DO make good choices, because I taught them to do so! Wake up, everyone, there is enough blame to go around, we all need to start doing what is right. Then good things will follow!! Not messes like this one!

Posted by: s Location: Eau Claire on Oct 16, 2008 at 02:18 PM
Micha did the right thing. This is Wisconsin......how many of you that have posted can say that you NEVER had a drink while underage? I bet very few if any. This is not about her; this is about David and his blatant disregard for the law and lack of tack/sympathy/sense after MURDERING 2 of his so called best friends. Lock him up and throw away the key!

Posted by: chelsie on Oct 16, 2008 at 01:59 PM
whats ridiculous is how quick people are to judge david. it wasn't just him that made a bad choice. it was the entire group. mike was not 21. he should have been sober, along with david. you can't point fingers at just one person. david and mike were friends, keep that in mind. would mike want all this harsh reaction on his friend? i would like to think not. it was an accident, its not like he went out that night with the intention of losing two of his best friends. micha- i understand that you are hurt. but david is too. he lost someone as well. you can not blame just david for this. please stop the harsh reaction on david, he is trying his best to cope with what happened. put yourself in his shoes, this was a complete accident.

Posted by: Anonymous Location: ec on Oct 16, 2008 at 01:52 PM
like i said before it would be a good start to change the driving to age 18. most minors should not be driving cars.

Posted by: a friend Location: ec on Oct 16, 2008 at 12:55 PM
stop bringing micha and her underages into it...she just lost her brother and david wasnt supposed to be drinking or out past ten and he did...micha did the right thing because if she wouldnt have told who knows what could have happened...im on your side micha and im praying for you and your family...WE MISS YOU MIKE!!!!

Posted by: 123 on Oct 16, 2008 at 12:54 PM
to micha so if you want this drinking and drivin to stop why didnt you sit and call in everyone who leaaves the party or partys you have been to? if you people dont get kids seem to do what they want after 17 and some time even younger so it is not always the parents fault!

Posted by: n Location: cf on Oct 16, 2008 at 12:41 PM
i feel for the family that lost their son i realy do ! their son also made the choice to get in the car that night and probly many other nights! the sister is out there doing the same thing her brother died from so she has no room to rip on david.in no way am i saying david did the right thing but alot of people do dd we are just lucky enough nothing like this happens! david had 2 of his friends in the car with him and they are all gone now.That is alot to deal with and yes he should get jail time but he by no means a murder a accident happend!

Posted by: shocked Location: area, wi on Oct 16, 2008 at 12:15 AM
There will be punishment in this case and obviously there is a need for it. But keep in mind that on that fateful night, 3 friends who had all been drinking chose to get in a car together and hill jump. Of course none of them thought the ensuing accident would happen, but it can and does happen. Please remember that they all made the same choice that night. I can understand the sister calling this in, but I can only wonder if the tables were turned and her brother was the driver/survivor that night would she have done the same thing. She her self does not have a clean record and I only hope if her parents are truly committed to changing things that they start by helping their daughter. If she does have her 2nd underage already, it's seems that she may be making some poor decisions also-especially if she got one of the tickets after this accident. EVERYONE needs to learn from this!!

Posted by: Anonymous on Oct 16, 2008 at 12:02 AM
that boy lost all respect from me. drink. drive. KILL TWO OF MY GOOD FRIENDS.. and have the nerve to go out and "live your life like nothing happened" NUH UHHH.. way to step up micha. i would have done the same thing HOW DARE HIM. ..i feel no pity. this tragic accident went from just that..an accident..to lack of respect for the family members and friends who were close to mike and shawn..to someone making one stupid mistake after another..showing that he just doesnt care. UNBELIEVABLE DAVID.

Posted by: Ashley~ mike's sis Location: Eau Claire on Oct 15, 2008 at 11:32 PM
Micha's record has nothing to do with this, so seriousally grow up. None of you people deserve to say anything against my brother...yah so they were good friends but the fine line is that David killed him, and yes i felt bad for him in a way. After he goes out and drinks again 2 months after killing my brother he deserves everything that will come to him. All these negative comments from people to my sister is wrong, she did the right thing and our family will stand up for what's right for our brother. We will get justice for our brother, he deserves that. You so called "friends" who are not on our side don't know him...he was a soldier, son, brother, and uncle~he had been in our lives for 19 years and now he's gone~ it's a nightmare. No one will understand the pain and hurt that we will all go through and i don't think it's too much to ask for a little respect for our family!

Posted by: Anonymous Location: chippewa falls on Oct 15, 2008 at 10:50 PM
How can a guy go out drinking again after killing two of his friends by drinking. Wow David needs to learn a lesson and the only way to learn a lesson in this case is prison, we need to keep him out of society for everyones safety!!! GOD BLESS THE VICTIMS FAMILIES

Posted by: ..... Location: ..... on Oct 15, 2008 at 10:32 PM
I think everyone is being a little ridiculous! David is a good kid and you would only know that if you knew him. Micha, I like how you back David up after all this first happened and now turning your back on him! He was like part of your family - - him and Mike were inseperable!!!! And you can't tell me that you go out to parties and don't drink - - If I recall you are underage also. He has to live with this the rest of his life and go through everyday knowing he killed 2 of his best friends, I think that's enough punishment! But in the end everyone has their own opinion - - this is mine!!!! Good Luck with everything David...I Love You!

Posted by: REAL SOLDIER Location: WI on Oct 15, 2008 at 10:31 PM
Why would I back-up or respect someone that has NO reguard for laws? I have been in the Army for almost 2 years and have already had a deployment under me. You want my respect? Go to Iraq and fight! Going to your buddies house, getting drunk, crashing a car that kills 2 of your friends, and going back out drinking a couple weeks later is NOT it. You want me to respect someone like this? NO ONE SHOULD RESPECT SOMEONE LIKE THIS! This is the type of person that gives ALL of the military a bad name. I hope to GOD that the military discharges him, I sure don't want me or any my friends to fight along side someone like this (doesn't learn from his mistakes)! For those of you who are NOT in the Military and say I should respect or defend this guy... join active Army and get stationed with my unit, you will see how DUI's and Underage's are tolerated! THERE NOT!!!!

Posted by: Confused Location: Wisconsin on Oct 15, 2008 at 10:20 PM
I have one question. On the 10pm news it says that Micha's parents called the cops because she told them she had seen him at the party drinking (but other reports said she called the cops). But one of her comments below said that she "heard" (but was not there at the house) he was going to be there. What is the truth with that? I'm not saying what was done was wrong (meaning the cops being called), but why is the story changing?

Posted by: Anonymous on Oct 15, 2008 at 08:04 PM
I must of looked in the wrong spot but only seen where she got 1st offense in August AT THE SAME ADDRESS as this house party and a tobacco fine. BUT WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH ANYTHING?????????? SHE DID THE RIGHT THING TURNING THE KID IN!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: f Location: k on Oct 15, 2008 at 08:01 PM
i can undestand where micha and her family are coming from totally. and i dont agree with the choices that david has been making. i know for fact that david went out drinking the weekend after the accident like nothing happend. honestly if you have a heart how can you do it.

Posted by: Anonymous on Oct 15, 2008 at 07:02 PM
Good For You Micha!!! You did the right thing and im very impressed!! :) as for david.. LOCK HIM UP!! why would you ever go drinking again this soon when you just got done killing your friends by drinking and driving and hill jumping or whatever. anyone who sticks up for david is pathetic because he obviously will never learn. TEACH THESE UNDERAGE DRINKERS A LESSON! lock him up for a very long time. if i killed my friend i would never be out drinking a month or however long after. david jacobson is a joke and i cant believe anyone could ever say anything about this to micha she lost her brother. i mean seriously she lost a huge part of her life and the killers out drinking and having a good time... ???

Posted by: Disgusted Location: Eau Claire on Oct 15, 2008 at 06:46 PM
Anonymous... This ISN'T about Micha. This is about David. You must be a politician to try to turn the tables!

Posted by: Anonymous Location: WI on Oct 15, 2008 at 06:36 PM
This kid is a waste of a life.

Posted by: Anonymous on Oct 15, 2008 at 06:01 PM
Also, look at micha haitts record. It says she was charged with her 2nd offense underage at the end of September.

Posted by: Disgusted Location: Eau Claire on Oct 15, 2008 at 05:59 PM
Well said Micha! You did the right thing. You probably even saved a life! God bless you and your family.

Posted by: Disgusted Location: Eau Claire on Oct 15, 2008 at 05:55 PM
So, anonymous, here's YOUR lesson... Nobody got David in trouble, David got David in trouble. If those girls wouldn't have called the police that night, David may have killed yet ANOTHER person. He shouldn't have been there. And as far as his friends backing him up no matter how crazy or dumb the situation and no matter what the consequences, are you saying they'd back David up to drink, drive, kill someone? How pathetic and what an unrealistic comment you made. I felt bad for David. I think he needs alcohol treatment, psychiatric help with his loss, and some guidance. As far as anonymous goes, I think YOU need to be a little more mature!

Posted by: S Location: eau claie on Oct 15, 2008 at 05:52 PM
David obviously needs to be locked up; not at home with his "parents." After your "child" murders 2 people, you would think you would keep a eye on 'em. Guess not. Then to hide behind a couch. What a pathetic waste of a human being. He belongs in jail and I hope that I get picked to be on the jury! I have NO sympathy for him or his family. The first time; I felt like he might have deserved a second chance. But after going out and drinking and partying less then 2 months after you KILL 2 of your friends.....NO! Jail is where David belongs for the rest of his life. OH! and nobody cares if he feels "sorry." That is not an acceptable excuse!

Posted by: MX Location: Eau Claire on Oct 15, 2008 at 05:28 PM
This is to Anonymous. In your comment you stated "Lets be more mature!!!you may have lost something and you may be bitter" Lost "something"? Would that something be their brother a Human Being? Maybe you should be the one who needs to mature before you make such ignorant comments

Posted by: dianne Location: ec on Oct 15, 2008 at 05:21 PM
WISE UP PEOPLE!! A STAND UP GUY? A "GOOD" KID? SOMEONE WHO WANTS TO SERVE HIS COUNTRY? NO!!!! THIS IS BLATENT DISREGARD OF THE RULES PUT INTO PLACE FOR HIM AFTER HE KILLED 2 PEOPLE THE FIRST TIME. THIS KID NEEDS SOME HARSH PUNISHMENT! JUST WHO DOES HE THINK HE IS? WISE UP PEOPLE! GIVE EM' WHAT HE DESERVES, HARD PUNISHMENT! MAYBE HE'LL LEARN ONCE AND FOR ALL HE HAS TO OBEY LAWS.

Posted by: T Location: WI on Oct 15, 2008 at 04:35 PM
Any one of those three boys could be in the same situation...I do feel bad for the families and friends of all of those involved. David has a drinking problem and that is obvious, but many teens and adults have drinking problems. Maybe he shouldn't be in jail but instead in rehab. Jail isn't going to give him the councling he needs. I believe Micha had every right to call him in for being at the party, it was a violation. However, would she have called it in if the tables were turned and David was the one that had died and Mike was out? You have to look at this situation from all sides before you start pointing fingers at anyone.

Posted by: Anonymous on Oct 15, 2008 at 04:31 PM
for all of you who believe micha is to blame for this situation u are mistaken..put youself in her shoes..if you lost a loved one would you want the person responsible for that death out drinking once again? it simply just shows a lack of remorse for the family..dont make her out to be the bad guy

Posted by: Anonymous on Oct 15, 2008 at 04:21 PM
this just proves that david will never learn his lesson..you can say they were close friends and they all would of wanted this but come on lets get real..the kid is out drinking 2 months after this terrible accident happend..i can also pretty much tell you that this probably isnt the first time david has been out drinking since the accident happened..best of friends or not lets have a little more sympathy for the friends and family who are still having a hard time dealing with their loss rather then being out partying once again knowing that its wrong..for you people who think david doesnt deseve any of this you need to wake up and realize that david has put this on himself and just keeps adding to the trouble hes in..it seems he just doesnt care..it appears to me that he thinks hes going to get nothing for a punishment out of this

Posted by: Anonymous Location: Eau Calire on Oct 15, 2008 at 03:56 PM
Wow! This guy really "gets it." And people always wonder what is wrong with America's youth.

Posted by: L Location: Madison on Oct 15, 2008 at 03:00 PM
Sometimes, things are beyong parents' control. Kids have their own will, and make their own choices. Always have, always will.

Posted by: Anonymous on Oct 15, 2008 at 02:30 PM
IF ETHIER OF THEM WERE HERE RIGHT NOW, WE ALL KNOW that NONE of them WOULD WANT any of this going on!!! they were all great friends and if you truly knew who any of them were you'd agree, they were inseperable. People who dont know them have no idea and have no right to be making the judgements they are. Each of those boys would back up any decision the otehr made, no matter how dumb or crazy the situatuion was, and no matter what consequences they would face. The real question is, has anyone learned anything from this other than to blame and judge?? NO not at all, and getting david introuble is of no help to anyone. This is all just adding up to the situation where it isn't needed. Lets be a little more mature!! you may have lost something and you may be very bitter but your not the only one dealing with any of this, remember that!! next time you decide to drink or drive without a liscense as well lets hope you dont get into any trouble! and your underage as well aren't you?

Posted by: Anonymous on Oct 15, 2008 at 02:24 PM
its not nice to say but just cause he is in the army he thinks he can get away with anything

Posted by: LoL Location: Eau Claire on Oct 15, 2008 at 02:18 PM
Wow! I can't believe there are still some people who thinks he's a "good" kid. This is the same underage kid who killed two of his friends. Obviously he hasn't learned his lesson. Hiding behind a couch??? Difinately not man enough to face up to his mistakes. And yes no one put a gun to his friends' head and ordered them into the car, but no one also put a gun to his head and forced him to drink. What great friends he has around him. He should be happy to know that his friends are cool enough to let him drink underage. I can probably qualify as a better friend. I'd care enough to tell him to not drink.

Posted by: Micha Location: Hiatt on Oct 15, 2008 at 02:16 PM
This is Micha Hiatt. And just to let everyone know, i wasn't there that night. I heard from a friend that he was going to be at that residents. I know not everyone agrees with what i did, but obviously he didn't learn the first time. And seeing him drink and hearing about him being at a party that night was a slap in the face to my family and I.

Posted by: ..... Location: ..... on Oct 15, 2008 at 01:57 PM
Keep your head up David! There are so many people backing you up right now. You are a great guy and everyone knows that. Don't worry about what other people say or, obviously, do...Stay Strong Buddy! I'll see you soon!!!

Posted by: Justin Location: Osseo on Oct 15, 2008 at 01:53 PM
ok i want to ask a question how would all of you feel if this was one of your best freinds that was the driver forget the age of him i bet 70 % of you would change your opinions and to micha and her family i am sorry for your loss. Im sorry about your brother and your friend and mine shawn RIP boys im always thinking about you and miss you both now just as much as ever

Posted by: Janice Location: Holcombe on Oct 15, 2008 at 01:53 PM
So we read everyday about adults doing the same thing why expect a teen to be any different. Who bought the beer and liquor for them. What was the girl doing there?

Posted by: KC Location: EC on Oct 15, 2008 at 01:38 PM
I agree with Anonymous - the people at 444 Garfield need to be charged with a crime. He obvisiouly has NOT learned his lesson. He needs to be locked up for others safety as he can't seem to make good choices by himself. Shame oh his parents for letting him out of their sight after what has already happened.

Posted by: Disgusted Location: Eau Claire on Oct 15, 2008 at 01:23 PM
Mom didn't know where he was? Why not? He's a minor! He's in trouble! If ever there is a time to know where your child is, it is now!

Posted by: RBK Location: Altoona on Oct 15, 2008 at 01:08 PM
Why is there such a drinking culture in Wisconsin?? And why do our young people think it is o.k. to drink? There seems to be a lack of parenting these days. Teach your children to stand up to their peers and say NO when urged to drink. Drinking causes too many problems in our society. Why do our young people have such an "anything goes" attitude? Are their imaginations so stunted that they cannot think of anything else to do? Parents, wake up, these children are the future of this country!

Posted by: Anonymous on Oct 15, 2008 at 11:38 AM
Way to go Micha! But the real question is why were you there? Or were you there just because you knew David was there? Plus where were the parents of David at? Do they care? Being a friend of the family, his mom didnt know where he was.Do you think he learned his lesson? What more is it going to take? My pray are out for Mike and Shawn.

Posted by: beenthere Location: Ladysmith on Oct 15, 2008 at 11:16 AM
Most of the blame lies with the driver,but the others made the choice to ride with him.Im sure he regrets killing is freinds but he didnt have gun to their head

Posted by: Eau Claire parent Location: Eau Claire on Oct 15, 2008 at 10:59 AM
We have to pound it into our children's heads that bad things can and do happen to teenagers. They need to understand how to avoid these situations as best as they can. Do not drive carelessly (some innocent person may lose their life) and don't drink and drive. I show my kids these articles all the time and let them know that the person who doesn't think and causes these accidents will have to pay for it the rest of their lives as will his family and the familys of the people he/she hurt. Think kids and take care of your friends if they decide to take chances. You won't be sorry you did, but you will if something happens and you didn't try.

Posted by: LAO on Oct 15, 2008 at 10:36 AM
Where are the parents? Why don't people ever seen to learn a lesson?

Posted by: Anonymous on Oct 15, 2008 at 10:14 AM
THESE PEOPLE AT 444 GARFIELD AVE HAD BETTER BE CHARGED WITH CONTRIBUTING TO THE DELINQUENCY OF A MINOR FOR ALLOWING UNDERAGE CHILDREN TO DRINK LET ALONE A KID CHARGED WITH KILLING 2 PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: sarah Location: wi on Oct 15, 2008 at 10:09 AM
ok so i have read a few of the comments and this is a very sad situation, but as for Patrick that says they stopped drinking an hour before, doesn't matter, ,people can be legally drunk the next day after they have stopped drinking 8 HOURS before. so yes drinking i am sure had a huge factor and the hill jumping too. it was a stupid choice made by a bunch of buddies and now families pay the price. BUT i do think that he should get something done for violating the judges rules about not drinking and being home by 10. that was his choice and no one elses and he should get something for that. if you are going to be stupid enough to do it again 2 months later in plain sight then you deserve what you get. and I also think DUI's should result in loss of license but it won't stop them, look at how many people have 10 dui's and are still driving, something needs to change in the justice system. too many people slide and it results in death.

Posted by: Disgusted Location: Eau Claire on Oct 15, 2008 at 10:04 AM
Was there a lesson learned here? What in the world is this kid thinking? Why are the parents not involved? This kid is 17 and not in school right now. The parents should be more responsible and keep this kid home and start giving him what he needs so he doesn't need to turn to alcohol. Shame on him and shame on his parents! GROW UP!

Posted by: GOOD FRIEND Location: EC on Oct 15, 2008 at 09:55 AM
for those of you that dont know david jacobson is a great kid who made a few bad choices and these so called real soldiers need to man up and be that respect your fellow soldiers ......thought it was one big family LOVE YOU DAVID ......miss you beats and mike

Posted by: REAL SOLDIER Location: WI on Sep 10, 2008 at 06:09 PM
I personally think that ALL DUI's should end in a loss of driver license and you have to take the course AGAIN to get them back. If you are caught driving WHILE license are taken away you do a year in JAIL. If you get caught underage drinking and DUI, your license should be gone NO MATTER WHAT until 21. The only way that people are going to get a clue is if you have a severe punishment. In the military if you get a DUI you lose ALL driving privileges on base for a year NO MATTER WHAT! Honestly the state should do the same thing. Something has to be done because what they are doing now is obviously NOT working.

Posted by: unbelievable Location: kenosha on Sep 9, 2008 at 09:28 PM
I cannot believe how selfish every single one of you are. Two young men have died and the third lost his life as well. I did not know Mike or David, but Shawn was the best thing that ever happened to me. This is a horrible tragedy. Stop putting the blame on just one person. The three of them knew what they were doing and now all three of them paid the price. That was hard for me to say none the less hard for me to write this, just understand and learn from these mistakes. I will never forget you Shawn you're in my heart and memory forever until we meet again. Fly like an Angel and watch over us. My thoughts and prayers are with your family.

Posted by: Anonymous on Sep 8, 2008 at 10:30 AM
Friends, don't let friends drive drunk. I remember that from when I was a kid. Especially if one in the car hasn't been drinking. Kids just don't think that things could happen to them. I never did and was lucky. Now I know how stupid I was. I tell that to my kids all the time. I doubt that David will get much, if any, jail time. He will, however, think of this every day of his life. I pray that he will think twice before getting behind the wheel again after drinking.

Posted by: Dianne Location: EC on Sep 7, 2008 at 09:43 PM
One question... WHAT IS IT GONNA TAKE, IT'S AGAINST THE LAW TO DRINK AND DRIVE, GET IT!!!!

Posted by: Anonymous Location: Eau Claire on Sep 7, 2008 at 08:46 PM
The brain can definately process the pro's and con's of drinking and driving.

Posted by: Anonymous Location: Wisconsin on Sep 7, 2008 at 05:05 PM
I have to ask as a young individual who looks at this accident and can see both sides of the argument, why must most individuals place the blame on one person? Yes the two other individuals in the car are no longer with us to blame for the accident, but why is no one asking what part they played? Do we know all the facts; do the boys have a history of drinking and driving? In this I am not taking about just David, but Mike and Shawn also. I am not saying these guys should be perfect, but not to understand their part in this tragic accident because they are no longer here isn’t right. I don’t wish to offend anyone, but why would a 23 year old who is sober get in the car with a 17 year old that had been drinking? Why if all boys were out for a night of fun would the sober person not drive? Why would they allow a friend to drive drunk? Yes the driver is responsible, but so was everyone who involved.

Posted by: rosa Location: kenosha wisconsin on Sep 7, 2008 at 02:36 PM
im going to miss you a lot shawn. your like a brother to me i will do what i have promesed you the last time you there in kenosha . shawn r.i.p.

Posted by: james Location: Menomonie on Sep 6, 2008 at 10:19 PM
I agree, the ONLY way to stop this madness is severe punishment for drunk driving' with NO exceptions. . Make it so bad that no one would dare to even try it.

Posted by: anonymous Location: wi on Sep 6, 2008 at 04:46 PM
doesn't deserve jail time? first of all, when you get in a car with someone that has been drinking, or let alone if you are the driver, you know exactly what you are getting yourself into, saying a persons brain doesn't develop at 23 yrs of age doesn't matter, not to drink and drive is a natural law and it has been praised over and over, even a five year old could tell you that, your brain doesn't need to be fully developed, and yet we still see people doing it at 65, 70 and 80! no matter what you always have a 50% chance of being injured, critically injured, or even death if you drink and drive, now it took away two young men's lives who were loved and well liked by their peers, family and friends to show "what a good time" can be

Posted by: deb Location: eu claire on Sep 6, 2008 at 11:56 AM
a person's brain is not fully developed until they are 23 years of age and the last part to develop is their reasoning of consquences of their actions. The driver does not deserve jail time. The three boys were all in it for a good time. He will have to live with this. He is just a kid who really did not realize that this could result in death. kids think of themselves as invinicible.

Posted by: ANOTHER REAL SOLDIER Location: WI on Sep 6, 2008 at 10:26 AM
I personally agree with real soldier. As a soldier in the army it is very embarrassing to know that it is soldiers like this give all of us the reputation of being dangerous and drinkers. And as a mother this outrages me further! What if my daughter was playing outside? What if this stunt was pulled on military orders?? Andrew what if this was your family that was killed in this?? This is a terrible tragedy and I have no doubt that David feels horrible about what happend and I hope he does. I am also hoping that he gets a dishonorable discharge as well. I am embarrassed to know that I fight along soldiers that behave in this manner. As a soldier in the united states military you are held to a higher standard because you trusted with other peoples lives!!!!! I do wish all of the families the best and hope David never drinks and drives ever again!!! Or anyone else who feels the need to put down other soldiers while they have ha numerous drinkin and driving or DUI charges.

Posted by: padg Location: eau claire on Sep 6, 2008 at 09:45 AM
rest in peace boys. we all miss you very much. <3

Posted by: Anonymous Location: Menomonie on Sep 6, 2008 at 12:19 AM
I think that they should find out where this house party was as they are just as responsible for serving a minor! As for the families who lost their loved ones, I'm sorry. Keeping you in my thoughts and prayers.

Posted by: Food for Thought Location: Eau Claire on Sep 6, 2008 at 12:10 AM
Sara, obviously I offer my sincere condolences to you and your family. My reference to "recreational drinking" was not directed at your brother, and I mention it only because it was a factor in this tragedy... admittedly only one of the many factors that came together on that fateful night. Our communities lose a little bit of themselves and a little bit of their "innocence" every time a tragedy like this occurs. But our loss does not compare to yours, your family's, nor that of the other families directly impacted. If something positive can be gotten from this horrible tragedy, it's that we reflect, we talk with our kids about the choices they face, the responsibilities they MUST take seriously, and their own mortality. If the life of even ONE person is saved by doing that, the incredible loss you've experienced may somehow become a valuable lesson for all of us, although it's a lesson that comes at a high cost. Again, my sincere condolences, Sara. I'm terribly sorry for your loss.

Posted by: Will Location: EC on Sep 5, 2008 at 11:17 PM
Is it now about time that we get serious about drinking and driving. I say lower the drinking age to 16 but make drunk driving a 5 year prison sentence for the first offence. Folks, that will do what all the useless efforts so far have not.

Posted by: hopeful Location: Osseo on Sep 5, 2008 at 10:31 PM
I only hope that EVERYONE learns from this. Please, please think before you get behind the wheel of a car. Kids, I know it's easy to think something could never happen to you-we've all been there. However this should be a lesson that IT CAN AND DOES HAPPEN. If there's one positive that can happen from this tragic situation, it's that young and old alike can make a change. Please don't drink and drive and for god's sake stop the hill jumping!

Posted by: stunned Location: area on Sep 5, 2008 at 10:24 PM
Hill jumping? Yes, it is something that is done. I've come to discover in the last week that this is something that is much more common than we would think it would be. Drinking and driving did not help this situation, BUT kids, please realize that even sober, hill jumping is a deadly decision. Maybe not just for you and your occupants, but potentially the vehicle on the other side of the hill. THINK RESPONSIBLY! It's no different than playing Russian Roulette. All three individuals made bad, life changing decisions that night. Unfortunate, but that's the reality of it all. Parents, talk to your kids about it. It happens more than you think. Kids, if you know someone is an unsafe driver, don't even get in a vehicle with them.

Posted by: SARA LOESCHER Location: FLORIDA on Sep 5, 2008 at 07:07 PM
I Just want to say that my brother SHAWN was NOT DRINKING!! Please continue to pray for these boys everyone lost alot in this accident.Thier memories will never be forgotton. I LOVE YOU SHAWN R.I.P

Posted by: I'm Anonymous, too Location: Harvard on Sep 5, 2008 at 06:10 PM
PS -- To Anonymous offering the "grammer" lesson, and I quote: "As for spelling/grammer, the majority of comments have been very poorly written. Where did you all go to school?" It's spelled "grammar". It merits repeating: "He that is without sin among you, let him cast the first stone..."

Posted by: Food For Thought Location: Eau Claire on Sep 5, 2008 at 05:49 PM
Thanks, Anonymous. Tragedies like these should not be an opportunity to play "People's Court", but rather a chance for introspection and to think about the examples we set for and the lessons we are teaching our children. It's incredibly easy to sit anonymously in judgment of the driver, but as for myself, I can't count on BOTH hands how many times it could just as easily have been me when I was younger. I thank God that I survived and I'm even more thankful that I didn't kill anyone else. I wouldn't wish the horror that the driver and the families of these kids must be living with on the least of my enemies. Again, if we were all honest about it, it could have just as easily been almost any one of us at one time or another. Use this opportunity to have a conversation with your kids about "recreational drinking" (let alone driving afterward) and to rethink the examples you are setting for them.

Posted by: Anonymous Location: Eau Claire on Sep 5, 2008 at 05:38 PM
I agree with the person who wrote "Food for thought" Well said and everyone needs to read what you wrote. Were all to blame for the choices that are made. Either we have done them, or seen someone do them and yet everyone can point a finger but never at themselves. I feel for all families involved here. they all are hurting. and bad choices were made. I've made them, and i thank god everyday that i'm still here living my life.

Posted by: Anonymous Location: Osseo on Sep 5, 2008 at 04:42 PM
To the person who wrote "FOOD FOR THOUGHT" Powerful statement!! I love what you wrote. Made me think about my own past choices or the choices my kids could make. I think everyone could learn from that! God Bless all the families of Mike, Shawn, and David! Our prayers are with all of you!

Posted by: Sally Location: Eau Claire on Sep 5, 2008 at 03:10 PM
As long as he has limited to no record he will serve 1 year in jail and then be on probation. Heck the lady that drove here from New York to have sexual intercourse with a 15 year old boy only received 7 months in jail and probation. Who is worse the guy that unintentionaly killed 2 people that choose to get in the car with their drunk friend or the women that was sober and drove to WI to have sex with a 15 year old?????

Posted by: brandie Location: es on Sep 5, 2008 at 03:09 PM
RIP Shawn and Mike. You two will always be remembered and loved. David- You are an amazing person, every single person who knows you is here for you, everday. I Love You!

Posted by: Food for Thought Location: Eau Claire on Sep 5, 2008 at 02:30 PM
"He that is without sin among you, let him cast the first stone..." NOBODY wins in a tragedy like this one and I'd be willing to bet it could have just as easily been almost ANY of us. The culture of this state is entrenched in the overindulgence of alcohol beyond belief, so it's almost impossible to believe that every one of us is free of guilt, myself included, such that we should sit in judgment of anyone in this situation. If we all took a moment to think to our pasts and are HONEST with ourselves, nearly every one of us could recall a situation in which it could just as easily have been ANY ONE OF US. Stop bashing kids that can't take back their poor choices that night, and instead pray for them and their families. Pray that SOMEBODY has learned a valuable lesson from this nightmare and will choose NOT to drink and drive in the future. THEN say a prayer of thanks for having been spared every one of those times that YOU made the same poor choices and lived through it.

Posted by: b on Sep 5, 2008 at 02:17 PM
RIP shawn.. you will be missed..Mike.. god speed.. i will see you again someday.. Love ya guys..

Posted by: Mike Location: Eau Claire on Sep 5, 2008 at 02:10 PM
An eternity in jail would not be good, but those people who think "he has received punishment enough already" need to get their head on straight. People feel emotions, but the law doesn't. And as for sentencing him to eternity in jail, that is left to the judge not the jury. The jury finds whether he is guilty of a crime, the judge deals out the sentence.

Posted by: Anonymous on Sep 5, 2008 at 01:12 PM
Yes, I would like to serve on the jury and help determine his future. You may be surprised that I don't want him to spend eternity in jail. I'm not even sure jail time would help. He helped determine his friends futures when he got behind the wheel that night. Unintentionally, but he did. I have served on jury duty before and don't always side with the victim. Now he has two deaths to live with. I hope there are many kids who have learned something from this.

Posted by: Osseo Graduate 2007 Location: Osseo, Wisconsin on Sep 4, 2008 at 10:44 PM
The last sentence is supposed to say, “Everyone commenting or reporting on this accident needs to be less careless.” but when I originally wrote this sentence it was longer. Due to a limit on characters allowed per posting, I had to rewrite it. I am sorry anonymous if you found the missing word annoying. However, I believe you missed the point of my entire comment. Hopefully you will not be on the jury because you are making judgments without knowing all the facts. How can anyone say they would love to be on a jury when they are determining the future of another person? Though, maybe if you knew more information your attitude and opinion would change. Consequences will occur, but allow a jury /judge to decide.

Posted by: anonymous Location: WI on Sep 4, 2008 at 07:46 PM
I feel badly for all the parties involved. Everyone feels badly for David, but just think if one of those other boys would have been driving and killed David! Than what? I am really suprised that all three didn't die, looking at that picture! The good Lord was truely with David that day, and maybe has some sort of purpose for his life. I think he does need some sort of punishment. Hopefully God gives the judge knowledge and hope in this situation, peace to all, and God bless.

Posted by: Anonymous on Sep 4, 2008 at 07:35 PM
every poor action has consequences obviously but it doesnt always have to involve TONS of legal action. dont you think that david has had the consequence of waking up every day and thinkin about it. i understand he will have to live up and take what they give him like a man but sitting on here just bashing him does absolutely nothing. oo and wow big deal...some people spell things wrong here and there i think there are bigger things to worry about then grammer on this page at a time like this. get over it.

Posted by: Anonymous on Sep 4, 2008 at 10:15 AM
I would love to be on that jury. Nobody believes that David doesn't feel bad. If he didn't feel bad, there would be something wrong. BUT, he can't just get a "poor boy" pat on the back and nothing more. Yes, accidents happen (unfortunately), but if there was an illegal act that caused it, that act needs consequences beyond his feelings. If Shawn had been driving and killed David, it would be the same. As a driver, you need to be responsible. As for spelling/grammer, the majority of comments have been very poorly written. Where did you all go to school? 2007 graduate - what is your last sentence supposed to be?

Posted by: me Location: there on Sep 3, 2008 at 10:55 PM
David, i don't know if you will ever see this but I am so sorry for YOUR loss too...find happiness again someday...that's what your boyz would want!

Posted by: Anonymous on Sep 3, 2008 at 08:49 PM
everyone keeps going on and on with the comments about blaming david..yeah lets all just blame him..thats a good idea..that will bring mike back. i mean GET REAL. IT WAS AN ACCIDENT. yes this is a situation to learn from im not saying its not but doesnt anyone think that david is going through enough... i mena the kid was mikes FRIEND they hung out all the time...if anyone knew him it was david he wouldnt go out and do that just to do it. i pray for shawn and i pray for the families lets hope no one has to hear anything like this in the future but everything does happen for a reason. live for now. im sure mike would want his friend to stop hurting but david has a long ways to go before he can go on even a little bit like himself. -live for today-

Posted by: Osseo Graduate 2007 Location: Osseo, Wisconsin on Sep 3, 2008 at 05:43 PM
After learning a classmate was gone I sat down and thought this cannot be real, there was no way Mike who had so much personality was gone. Mike was a guy who cared deeply about his friends, and would never want people who knew nothing about him and his boys making cruel, unforgiving, inconsiderate comments about a tragic accident that took his life. Anyone who knew Mike, David, or Shawn would know they would never purposefully harm each other, they considered each other brothers. Yes mistakes were made the night Mike left us, but David wasn’t the only one to make them. He was driving and now lives with the pain and regrets of that night, so anyone who is unintelligent enough to say he deserves ruthless sentencing needs to rethink there own character. Yes, consequences will result, but a judge or jury will decide, not individuals who know nothing more than the media reported about a tragic accident. Everyone commenting or reporting on this accident needs to less careless.

Posted by: Anonymous Location: osseo on Sep 3, 2008 at 02:40 PM
I agree with the last comment about the spelling used in some of these comments!! It drives me crazy!! I'm glad I'm not the only one that noticed:)

Posted by: Anonymous Location: Eau Claire on Sep 3, 2008 at 12:56 PM
People who are making the rude and stupid comments, should just shut up!! you have no idea what happened. Keep your dumb comments to yourself because they are not helping anyone, especially not the friends and family of shawn, mike, and david. We should be praying for shawn, and remembering mike. Not blaming anyone because it is not one persons fault.

Posted by: Anonymous Location: Eau Claire on Sep 3, 2008 at 12:22 PM
I am very upset reading many of these negative comments. It sickens me to see how many people are quick to judge and want to play God. Since the majority of people are doing this, I would like to make a judgement myself. If you are unable to spell or form complete sentences, I believe you aren't very bright and should keep your idiotic thoughts to yourself. Thank you!!

Posted by: Lynn Location: Eau Claire on Sep 2, 2008 at 07:41 PM
It saddens my heart every time I hear one of these stories. I too lost someone, a niece in a car accident where she and 2 of her girlfriends had been drinking. 17-18 year olds with their whole lives ahead of them. Everyone was in shock and grief stricken. The sad part is, that it happens over and over and over. We as adults in our communities need to take some of the responsibility for the culture here in WI. What family, community or sporting event can you remember going to when there wasn't alcohol present? It's the message we keep sending our children. Don't drink alcohol you could get hurt but then the message they get out in the community, on TV, radio, magazines, the newspapers and from us as parents (role modeling the behavior) is that it's ok. Give our kids achance. Start early. Talk often, set rules, boundaries, guidelines, have consequences and stick to them. Be consistent in the message that alcohol is NEVER ok for a young person. If it saves one life it's worth it!

Posted by: B Location: EC on Sep 1, 2008 at 08:50 PM
I agree with C.B. The attitude of the "friends" is terrible. This cannot be overlooked just because everyone involved feels bad. There are l