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Updated: 3:31 PM Sep 25, 2008
Big Buck In Buffalo County Creates Controversy
Buffalo County is known nationwide for having a large population of big deer. Posted: 7:20 PM Sep 24, 2008Reporter: Amelia Cerling Email Address: Amelia.Cerling@weau.com |
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Posted by: peter
Location: durand
on Nov 1, 2008 at 12:41 PM
wake up joe! remember clinton was going to take all our guns also. dodnt fall for the fear mongering.go oboma!!!
Posted by: joe
on Oct 31, 2008 at 12:05 PM
What are u talking about. Did u hear about what he thinks about guns. if he gets in office he will ban the use of guns and we will not be able to hunt and all the land will just go to waste. GO JOHN MCCAIN
Posted by: scott
Location: Eleva
on Oct 30, 2008 at 09:15 AM
Here's the real deal in Buffalo County. If you didn't have the land passed down through generations or buy it 20 yrs. ago you will not be hunting in this county without paying big bucks. The rich are buying up the land as fast as it comes up for sale leaving the middle income person out. The only solution will be to elect B.Obama so all of us have a chance to make a good living instead of filling the rich man's pockets with our labor. Our country has the largest division between the rich and middle class than ever in our history. So, until we elect a president that will give us all an equal playing field the rich will continue buying land that is out of the middle class person's budget and income.
Posted by: Noc
Location: daughter of B.C. farmer
on Oct 30, 2008 at 07:40 AM
If you would actually bother to look at the WI DNR website. There is only one person listed in the WDACP in Buffalo Cty for deer. The others are all for bear.
Posted by: Jim
Location: Neillsville
on Oct 27, 2008 at 08:38 PM
If you want a list of crop damage and forest cropland recipients. It is posted on the DNR website. I use it to find out who "must" let others hunt their land. If you go there and ask to hunt, if they ask for money you have the right to take them to court to get the federal/state money returned.
Posted by: joe
Location: durand
on Oct 24, 2008 at 08:57 AM
are the farmers reporting this lease income to the irs? ALSO CRP AND MANAGED FOREST LAND SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO BE LEASED! AND SHOULD BE TAXED ACCORDING TO WHAT OUTFITTERS ARE PAYING THE FARMER , NOT BY USE VALUE ASSESSEMENT!THIS LEASED LAND SHOULD BE TAXED ON WHAT IT IS EARNING!
Posted by: joe
on Oct 24, 2008 at 08:13 AM
smart one jim. you cant even spelll write
Posted by: jim
on Oct 20, 2008 at 09:45 PM
WOW!!! The Outfitter is the problem? The Farmer is the Problem? Outfitters and farmers are more in touch with the land than anyone else I know and some just might like taking other people hunting or fishing and try to make a living at it! Keep in mind people outfitters are not some rich person chances are thay dont make more than YOU! and as for the price of land going up might want to thank your doctors and loyers for that!
Posted by: Steve
on Oct 16, 2008 at 06:11 AM
The outfitter has a right to outfit... the farmer has a right to lease.. We hunters have the right to hunt...The PETA uninformed so called wildlife lovers have the right to believe what they want! Get the picture people? We do not have to agree with what other people do and say, but as soon as you take ones rights away be prepared for yours to be next!Voice your opinion but be carefull when you become the judge and jury.... then we all will be without choices!
Posted by: Jim
Location: Coleman, Wisconsin
on Oct 15, 2008 at 08:40 PM
Its hunters like you joe that are the jelouse type, i do have a buck that is 195 and one eighth inch nontypical and i have my hunting group to back me, and it doesn't bother me what anyone else thinks. and no i am not an outfitter and do not believe in that, every deer i shot, is shot off of my familys private land so there. i love hunting and so does my family we have fun and don't care if someone shoots a big buck around our land, and everyone that hunts around us knows that if they need help tracking or need to drive across our land to retrieve there deer they can without even asking and there are very few of us around like that. we don't look at hunting as a sport we look at it as having fun with ereryone around us and if we shoot a big buck thats just one more thing to celebrate. hunting is supposed to be a fun time not a time to get mad at the neighbor for shooting a buck bigger than yours and getting jelouse about it and calling people liars because they shot bigger bucks
Posted by: Joe
Location: Spencer
on Oct 15, 2008 at 01:01 PM
U liar. I bet u havnt shot a 195" buck. i bet u r an outfitter too and are just sucking up to the landowners
Posted by: Jim
Location: Coleman WI
on Oct 14, 2008 at 04:56 AM
I think if the land owner wants to lease his land for money and charge people to hunt he has all the right, farmers have to make money also. And i also think if someone wants to film or take pictures of a monster buck off a public road then let them, they have all the right since no one owns the deer. Everyone just needs to stop and think for a minute, and remember what hunting is all about. There are so many people that are just plain GREEDY when it come to hunting, and they want all the land and they think that all the big bucks are theres. Hunting is suposed to be fun and a good time with the family and friends. And if someone wants to get mad at anyone for giving favors blame the DNR for giving a slap on the wrist to outfitters who make a ton a money and are taking the sport of hunting away. If anyone should get money it should be the farmer, they feed the deer basicaly for free. I have shot bucks up to 195" and still love to c people around me get big bucks, im not a brager
Posted by: Jim
Location: Pound Wisconsin
on Oct 13, 2008 at 09:21 PM
I think if the farmer wnats to charge to let people on his land, more power to him, farmers have to make a living also. And as far as someone taking a picture or a video from a public road more power to them also, no one owns a deer unless they pay for it and raise it in a pen. If anyone wants to get mad at anyone then get mad at the DNR for not punishing outfitters the way they do to any other hunter. It seems that people are so easy to get along with until it comes to hunting season then everryone hates everyone for shooting there buck, or shining on my land, or taking a video of a big buck. It just boils down to being a money game just like everything else in this country. And if the farmer gets money for deer eating his crops then so be it, he has to make a living also. You people act as if the only thing to lofe is a big buck, well let me tell you this, i have seen huge bucks that would make a hunter freeze and i shot bucks that only hunters dream of and i still have fun.
Posted by: bowhunter
Location: Spencer
on Oct 9, 2008 at 10:20 PM
I agree with comment about people not shooting the does. As an avid bowhunter for 22yrs I get frustrated listening to other hunters when they talk about harvesting deer. All I hear is "big buck" Yes shooting a "wall hanger" is a great rush and thrill but I get just as excited harvesting a mature doe as I do a buck. More hunters need to assist in the managing of deer herds. The idea of only shooting bucks is not helping in managing of the deer herd. Hunters need to help manage the deer herd in WI. Just think if hunters were not allowed to harvest deer in WI. The deer population would be in a sad shape. Sickly deer, lots of property damage and more auto accidents. Please do your part this year and harvest does. If you get a buck this year that is just a "bonus" Good luck to all hunters this year and be safe!
Posted by: Jim
Location: Cochrane
on Oct 6, 2008 at 01:05 PM
I totally disagree with scott and hillbilly. the animals are defenseless and i despise eating gods creatures. in a sense we are like the majestic deer. i agree with josh in alma. we all should live in peace and harmony. i think that people like scott and hillbilly should just let the deer roam free.
Posted by: roc2
Location: mondovi
on Oct 3, 2008 at 01:41 PM
If the outfitters like the "big buck" in Buffalo Co so much, why don't they buy there own land? Then they wouldn't have to complain about the absorbitant prices they have to pay to lease the land and they couldn't blame the farmer for any of their troubles they have created themselves. I have had personal experience with some outfitters trespassing onto my land. Needless to say, they don't paint a pretty picture for the business as a whole.
Posted by: Steve
Location: Eau Claire
on Oct 3, 2008 at 04:37 AM
I would like to say that, do you like the fact that thousands of deer causes auto accidents? Let's go Hunting. People Eat Tasty Animals!!!!
Posted by: John
Location: Eau Claire
on Oct 2, 2008 at 10:05 PM
Josh, Jordan, Greg, you guys are absolutelly in the wrong here... Deer do not naturally stay at a natural population. Wisconsin used to have wolves and other predators to control this; however, WE ELIMINATED THESE ANIMALS LONG AGO!! Hunters are the only way to control these animals, and why not have fun doing it. It is the one of the largest reasons for revenue in Wisconsin. Most importantly, deer hunting is Wisconsin's greatest tradition. I think DAn from Mondovi is jealous that he doesnt own any of his own land. Maybe he/she should have saved more money for land :)!
Posted by: Josh
Location: Alma
on Oct 2, 2008 at 09:03 PM
I think that all hunting should be revoked and let all of gods good creatures live in peace. I agree all the way with Jordan, how would you like to get chased around and shot at all of the time. I'd bet that no one would like that one bit. The animals have the right to live just like us humans and should be left alone.
Posted by: scott
Location: Eleva
on Oct 2, 2008 at 03:58 PM
Hillbilly from Arcadia-finally someone who makes sense of this whole thing, I couldn't agree more! A mature buck will humble the best of hunters and a nice doe tastes great and the charcole grill.
Posted by: DAn
Location: Mondovi
on Oct 2, 2008 at 03:49 PM
I agree with Jacob...Outfitters get a real job... you know like, baseball player, football player, hockey player, actor, song writer, olympic swimmer, author, tennis player, fisherman, golfer, gambler, pool player, game show host, musician, politition, cyclist, soccer player. That's right get a real job like these people and suffer while trying to spend the millions!
Posted by: Hillbilly
Location: Arcadia
on Oct 2, 2008 at 03:14 PM
I used to agree with Greg, I felt sorry for those poor deer, all those guys out terrorizing the poor things!! THEN, I got talked into a 4 hr hunt, when that big doe snuck past 7 people.then turned aroundand ran back past all 7 of us and never got touched. IT WAS WAR!!! I have been hunting for 30 yrs.. and I do it for the meat,comraderie w/friends, and to prove i am smarter than a buck....THAT is what hunting should be about!!!!!
Posted by: Jordan
Location: Alma
on Oct 2, 2008 at 03:08 PM
I compelty agree with Greg on this one. It is not right to hunt poor animals. How would one of you like to be chased after in your own home? This buck is a majestic creature that should be left alone!
Posted by: Dean
Location: Chippewa Co.
on Oct 2, 2008 at 01:28 PM
Oh boy just when it looked like we were having a real discussion with real hunters about a serious problem involving deer hunting we had to have a PETA nut stick there 5 cents in it. I agree with Greg, deer do look majestic! in the woods and on the dinner plate next to the potatos and carrots.Get a clue Greg! the PETA types of the world think that if you just left all the animals alone mother nature would take care of its self and all the critters of the forest. Well maybe 100 years ago that might of worked when we didn;t have subdivisions, cars, and the amount of people living in this country that we do now. In a lot of states the deer herds are exploding and the only good and ethical way to control that is by hunting. I don't see the PETA people spending any money to help the situation, but they will spend millions to stop hunting. Got an idea! Greg why don't you ask PETA if they would buy a couple thousand acres of land they could set aside for the deer, bet that wont happen.
Posted by: Jacob
Location: Alma
on Oct 1, 2008 at 09:42 PM
"Outfitters" exploit the resource for his own personal gain! Come on get a real job that actually benefits this country. I say we at least put some real licensing into effect against these so called “outfitters” and se how much money they really take in that isn’t under the table and how much land is tied up to hunters from out of state. Let me ask you this: Would you hunt deer if they did not have antlers?
Posted by: Jacob
Location: Alma
on Oct 1, 2008 at 09:41 PM
The farmers are just getting compensated for when they are paid for crop damage by deer. They would make the same amount of money on crops either way. The inputs of farming are rising exponentially to the point where the farmer is making less on the crops that they raise. Fertilizer is through the roof and bags of seed are well over $50 a bag now. If a farmer rents land to a couple of hunters, that most likely only shoot one or two deer a year if any at all, he is just trying to get money out of the woods due to the ridiculous taxes in Buffalo County. The hunters then in turn promote diseases such as CWD even though they think they are totally in favor of eradication of the disease. Outfitters drove the land prices and taxes up enormously! Before the times of deer in BC, woods were a lot less useful than it is now. Brett Evans has all right to rip on “outfitters” in BC. I say “outfitters” because all it takes it a simple fee of $40 and one can call himself an outfitter.
Posted by: Greg
Location: Alma
on Oct 1, 2008 at 09:38 PM
I think that everyone on this page is looking at deer in the wrong way. Deer are majestic creatures, and I cannot believe that anyone would shoot one. PETA is an orginization that gives all animals equal rights. The Farmers, Landowners, and Outfitters should make better moral decisions. Hunting is a mere unethical sport that eliminates wonderful creatures. I believe that the big deer should live in peace!
Posted by: Dean
Location: Chippewa co
on Oct 1, 2008 at 05:38 PM
I would like to thank all the outfitters for there part in slowly turning deer hunting into a rich mans sport. Not to mention driving up the price of land in Buffalo co. To bad you people don't have more brains to make a living at something better than outfitting so you are not raping the resource from the people of wisconsin.I have been hunting in wisconsin for 35 years and it makes me sick to see your hollywood so called hunters on TV bragging about the big bucks they shoot in our state and pass on this kind of hunting to our younger generation who are begining to think they need to pay thousands of dollars and have big farms with food plots Excuse me I mean harvest plots! to be able to go deer hunting. And then the so called hollywood experts can;t figure out why hunter numbers are dropping. I think outfitters should be forced to put a certian percent of money into the stewadship fund so that the DNR can purchase more hunting land for the real hunters of the state of wisconsin.
Posted by: Jacob
Location: Alma
on Oct 1, 2008 at 05:36 PM
One can look at the farmers as getting compensated for all the crop damage taken place. The ag. tag program from the DNR just gives the farmers back their money that they would rightfully get in the first place. The inputs that farmers put into their crops are going through the roof with fertilizer and bags of seed well over $50 a bag. The farmers were here long before the deer were in Buffalo County. Brett has all rights to rag on the outfitters. Look at what they have done to land prices. Before deer were here, woods was useless land because no one was able to farm on it. Now, due to outfitters, the price of an acre of woods or for that sake,the amount of "shooters" on the land, has went up exponentially due to the outfitters taking advantage of a resource that belongs to everyone. Let me ask all you out there, If deer did not have antlers, would you hunt them?
Posted by: Greg
Location: Alma
on Oct 1, 2008 at 05:34 PM
I think that if it get shots, the dear should be put in a school or museaum to show off its beauty. It is going to be a state recoord for sur.
Posted by: Greg
Location: Alma
on Oct 1, 2008 at 05:28 PM
I hope I get to shoot it.
Posted by: BG
Location: Nelson
on Oct 1, 2008 at 07:49 AM
I agree with Jordan also because yes outfitters are exploiting our natural resources. I live in the heart of BC and you cant drive down a country road on the weekends with out even coming up 3 or 4 trucks stopped on the side of the road looking at someone else's land. Scott you better get our facts straight when you say probably charging for people to hunt and if he is so what thats his business. As far as i know he isn't chargign outrageous amount of money and taking videos and putting them on the internet for everyone and their brother to see so that people can drive down the road that was once quiet. So Scott I agree with Evans everything has changed since outfitters arrived. I hear my father and grandfather tell stories how when they were younger you could hunt from Durand to the Mississippi because anyone would let anyone hunt and no one had to tresspass or pay for hunting.
Posted by: Jacob
Location: Alma
on Sep 30, 2008 at 10:30 PM
All over a stupid deer. It's not like we get to take the rack with us when we die. In the end, no hunter is better than another for what they shoot.
Posted by: Josh
Location: Alma
on Sep 30, 2008 at 01:47 PM
I agree with Jordan because if we don't harvest more deer they will become overpopulated and cause diseases. I also feel that the famers have the right to charge the hunters if they want to. If the hunter really wants to hunt on that land bad enough they will pay for it. Also the post from Tim was not to be on hear and was a joke from a friend.
Posted by: scott
Location: eleva
on Sep 30, 2008 at 12:28 PM
Jordan, you are missing the point of the article. Brett Evans is blaming outfitters for all of the problems with deer hunting in B.C. He says outfitters are "exploiting a natrual resource" when charging to hunt. He is a farmer and probably gets a little money or gifts from people hunting on his land but doesn't see that as "exploiting a natural resource". Sure it is fine that farmers are compensated for letting hunters on their land. I don't think many will deni that but what Brett is saying is that the outfitters are the only ones exploiting our natural resouses for profit....what about the farmers like himself...aren't they doing the same? That is what the article is all about and that is why his foolish remarks have caused me to write 3 comments now. JR, I thought I heard Dave lost his license for 5 yrs., more than a slap on the wrist. Plus we bohJane, read the article. It is not about leasing land it is about a nut farmer blaming outfitters for all that is going wrong in B.C.
Posted by: Jordan
Location: Alma
on Sep 30, 2008 at 09:07 AM
There are two types of people in B.C., and I think that we should respect both. Some look at deer as crop-damaging rodents, while others believe that they are majestic creatures. Both opinions are valid, however. A proper median should be accepted by all in Buffalo County. The earn-a-buck program is important to control herd population. Deer are in fact overpopulated in Buffalo County. This overpopulation could potentially lead to diseases like CWD in Buffalo County. Mainly, do not stereotype any group of people, especially farmers. The few left in Buffalo County that farm are merely making an honest living off of the land. If this means that the farmer has to charge for hunters. So be it! It is the farmer's right to do so.
Posted by: Tim
Location: Tell WI
on Sep 30, 2008 at 09:06 AM
The first time I saw that video of that buck I thought that it was a doe. It's not even that big of a buck.
Posted by: Dan
Location: mondovi
on Sep 29, 2008 at 03:33 PM
Gotta love it? It's that time of year again when the DNR wants us to shoot as many deer as possible, the local people can no longer get on land for free, the land owners think the deer belong to them and on and on it goes. The DNR is finding a decline in kids buying licenses and believe by the year 2050 there will be very few hunters.(I wonder why? Kids have no place to hunt) Without hunters the land will drop in value and the land owners will be whining about it just as they are whining now about people hunting on their land without forking out the big money. Greed is controlling B.C. now but in the near future this will all change. The DNR will have to bring in mountain lions to kill off the over populated deer herd or hire sharp shooters...funny! The land owners will really be crying now because their farm animals will be killed by the same lions. This is our future in B.C. if the land owners don't realize it will take more than 5 hunters on 500 acres to control our deer herd.
Posted by: Noc
Location: daughter of B.C. farmer
on Sep 28, 2008 at 05:28 PM
For years the family has lived and hunted in B.C. Even though soem have grown and moved away, we come home to hunt.What we have to contend with is nearby farmers who let in the outfitters or rent out their land to those that do not live in the area. How kind and gracious are these people? They cross over fences and traipse through posted land, our family land. Do they care... no way!! Our home farm happens to have an outfitter that lives adjacent to it, and they are always crossing over the fences. As for Kirkpatrick, he uses Eleva as his address but, actually has his cabin and land for hunters outside of Mondovi. How often does he cross onto land that he does not own or have rights to? Maybe it is time to just sit this year at the end of the family property and blast a stereo and party, then see how many "big bucks" the outfitters can get for their paying guests.
Posted by: Jane
Location: Neillsville
on Sep 27, 2008 at 07:14 PM
I do not live in Buffalo county, nor do I own land big enough to hunt on. If I did own land in Buffalo county that supported hunting, you'de better believe that if I leased it out I would charge "big bucks" for big bucks!!!!!!!!!!If it was my land, why shouldn't I be able to do with it as I please???? Whether I was a farmer or not!!!!!!!! And you had better bet I'de be chasen off trespassers!!!!!!!! Getting them to pay fines too if I had to!!!!!!!! After all, it's my land, I payed for it and continue to pay for it in property taxes!!!!!!!!! Who do you outfitters think you are anyway???????? Have land of your own if you want that kind of business!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: JR
Location: Gilmanton
on Sep 27, 2008 at 01:51 PM
In response to Scott, the earn-a-buck rules are great in theory...but at least one outfitter in our area has already been caught cheating this system (and gotten a wrist slap) and the rest of the "hunters in a hurry" target foolish fawns to harvest their "doe."
Posted by: Kris
Location: Buffalo County
on Sep 26, 2008 at 06:09 PM
Cheers to KP Location on the comment that its all about the money. If you are from Buffalo County you start seeing the $40,000 trucks pulling the trailer with two or more four wheelers pulling in around mid to late August. You can hardly go to the local eating places or taverns and get a table to eat and have a drink because they are all taken by the outfitters and their clients,and they are not giving up their chairs!!! Yes it brings revenue into the county but at what expense. Pushing out the locals isn't the way it should be. You would swear that nobody ever shot a deer before the outfitters existed. Must be wonderful to feel so important. And further more, I would like to see some of their tax returns. How much income are they reporting. When someone from across the country shows up to hunt deer for $$$, don't you think there would be some cash transactions? Its nice to be well known as a county, but lets try to preserve something for our kids and grandkids.
Posted by: KP
Location: Buffalo Co.
on Sep 26, 2008 at 02:21 PM
This has nothing to do with greed from farmers . It's all about greed from outfitters and wanta be hunters. I own two different parcels in Bauffalo County and deer huting has become a joke. It's now become a rich mans sport .I hunt and harvest deer for one reason , the meat !! Sure every hunters dream it to shoot a beautiful buck , but for some reason this beautiful creature has become a MONSTER. Buffalo County Monster Bucks , what a joke . get a grip . Outfitters are the reason you are paying 4-5 thousand dollars an arce for land , not the farmer. . Hunting used to be fun , now it is way over rated. Let em go so they can grow . Somebody actually made a bunch of money selling bumper stickers stating this . It's all about money. I can't wait to see the comeback on this e-mail , start typing
Posted by: scott
Location: Eleva
on Sep 26, 2008 at 01:27 PM
No offense to farmers intended or should I say non other than Brett Owens. His remarks insinuating that the outfitters are the evils of B.C. are far from the truth. I think it is great that the farmers are able to get extra money by leasing their land to hunters and outfitters. Brett has to remember outfitters like Scott K. lease all of the land he takes his clients on and without the farmers he wouldn't have a business. I am trying to open Brett's eyes to the reality that if farmers wouldn't lease their land than their wouldn't be as many outfitters. Also Brett says that because clients are only out for big bucks forgets a doe must first be harvested before shooting a buck. Brett is just out of touch of what is really happening in B.C. Does Brett condem his fellow farmers for making a few extra dollars off from leasing their land? Hmmm, sounds like it to me. I say good for the farmer and good for the outfitters who are making a living doing what they love.
Posted by: HL
Location: Mondovi
on Sep 26, 2008 at 11:03 AM
Most farmers don't accept money for crop damage or from hunters, but please remember that crops are a source of income for these farmers and if deer are decreasing their revenue then they should not feel bad about accepting cash from hunters. They still need to make a living- I certainly don't begrudge you a paycheck for an honest days work. Farmers work all year long and only get paid when the crop is harvested. Do you have any idea how much corn or soybeans a deer can eat? I think it would surprise you to see the actual amount of damage to a field caused by deer.
Posted by: roc
Location: heart of B.C.
on Sep 26, 2008 at 10:42 AM
We own land in Buffalo County and because of this video and story on this buck past our land has been like interstate 94 and because of this you see fewer deer out towards evening. I grew up in a hunting family and of course getting that big buck is what every hunter dreams of. But come on people did you have to put this on the internet and other places you are only making this worse sure advertising for your business means more money to you if you could show clients what the bucks are like in this area. People give it a rest I don't even feel safe to have my children near the road that used to be very quiet and few and far between for traffic and now its non stop and they don't travel very slow. If you think you have to drive to Buffalo County to see this big buck slow your butts down when you are on the roads there are people who still live out here!!!
Posted by: Brad
Location: western, wi
on Sep 26, 2008 at 08:32 AM
I agree with Scott in a way. If you get a crop damage check from the government your land should be public hunting. Sure they have to let so many hunters on there land but I have alot of reletives that will sign a piece of paper saying they hunted my land and never set foot on it. Crop damage is only caused by to many deer. When you have a buck like that who is going to shoot a doe for the chance at a monster like that. You think you have crop damage this year wait until next year. I know someone will write peopel destroy private property and don't respect private land. Have the DNR set up a lottery system for hunting crop damage land then you would know who is hunting and causing damage.
Posted by: KURT
Location: RICE LAKE, WI
on Sep 26, 2008 at 07:26 AM
GOOD LUCK TRYING TO HUNT ANYWHERE NEAR B.C. THIS FARMER WAS NUTS TO PUT HIS NAME TO THIS PICTURE. I'M SURE SOMEONE WILL POACH IT. TOO BAD.
Posted by: John
Location: Buffalo County
on Sep 26, 2008 at 12:26 AM
I own land and farm in Buffalo County. I do not hunt,accept crop damage money or lease my land to hunters. I allow a few of my friends to hunt if they wish at no charge. One of the reasons I allow them to hunt is to keep off trespassers and guys like Scott.
Posted by: Susan
Location: Mondovi
on Sep 25, 2008 at 10:46 PM
Gee Scott, Do you own any land? Well as you should know it costs the landowners a pretty penny every year for taxes and insurance. I guess if a farmer wants to charge you for hunting his land he has every right. How much does that Big Buck mean to you. If you are stupid enough to pay $10,000 to hunt for deer, then the farmer that owns the land is smart enough to accept. Quit your whinning and go buy some land.
Posted by: Bill
Location: chippewa county
on Sep 25, 2008 at 02:18 PM
I find it hard to beleve that is a wild deer. looks to me maybe Scott and Bret are lookin for more big money hunters, you can keep your big buck... last i knew Antler soup dosent tast that great. maybe they should test it for HGH,roids etc. cause thats all they are on the game farms!! the Berry Bonds of big bucks.
Posted by: Mark
Location: west central WI
on Sep 25, 2008 at 01:44 PM
Saw this coming when I first saw the video. What did he expect? You get video of a trophy deer like that and start showing it off. Of course, it's gonna create a stir and that video is going to spread fast and far, via e-mail. My guess is that buck will now probably die at the hands of some poacher and it will never be appreciated or recognized for the trophy animal it is.
Posted by: maynard
Location: chippewa falls
on Sep 25, 2008 at 01:39 PM
hunting in B.C. is not to be had. these people who own land in B.C. think they are on the top of the world... I would like to see some laws passed on this just to stop the deer damage payment that goes to these farmers at the end of the year and also have their names published in the paper who recieve payment for crop damage.
Posted by: P
Location: Mondovi
on Sep 25, 2008 at 01:10 PM
Whoa, Scott! Maybe you should think before you react. This story started because of one deer...yes, a very big deer! But, it sure has created alot of controversy. But, to think that every farmer charges outrageous prices to hunt their land is a misconception. And so what if they do. Obviously there are plenty of guys rich enough out there to pay it. Most farmers don't seem to be getting rich these days. With the cost of crop inputs, fuel, and taxes - if they can get a little extra money - good for them! Too bad the ones that don't own or work the land couldn't be a little more appreciative of the ones who do.
Posted by: Seth E. Anderson
Location: Winona MN.
on Sep 25, 2008 at 12:28 PM
Thats a nice deer, but ive seen buck out where i work & have gotten a picture of a 14 pointer w/ a spread that wouldnt fit through a door way.
Posted by: Scott
Location: Eleva
on Sep 25, 2008 at 11:46 AM
I have hunted Buffalo County for the better part of 39 yrs. and believe Brett is hiding his head in the sand if he believes it is the outfitters exploiting natural resources. I have found that there is not a place in B.C. that can be leased to hunt on for less than $40 an acre. It seems the B.C. farmers are maybe exploiting a natural resourse by accepting 8 to 10,000 dollars for the right to hunt deer on their land, maybe even Brett is collecting a little. (Any crop damage being accepted Brett?) Maybe if Brett is so against receiving money to hunt deer he will invite me back to B.C. to hunt deer on his farm for free!!! Ha Ha, like that would really happen. A gift of a turkey, a little venison and a thank you was always enough for a farmer to let me hunt their land. So before you climb on your high horse Brett look around you and see who really is exploiting the natural resourses, you and the other farmers charging outrages prices for the right to hunt your land! |
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If you caint afford your own land, you are too poor to hunt. Hunting is the sport of kings, not peasants!!
Johnny, I would love to purchase your land. How could we meet to talk price? If you have hunted this area for years you then know Anna Thompson's place. I hunted that for years until she died and the place was sold.
I agree with the guy that thinks we could use a doe only season. If we're going to do that I think it should be 2 or 3 seasons not just one.
One thing about deer hunting, you don't need a lot of land to hunt,5 acres is enough if you have a good spot.I have a wall full of horns and a belly full of does and fawns,don't eat them anymore, give them to people that want them.We used to hunt with 20 to 25 guys and gals and shot anything that anyone would tag,as anyone driving by could see them hanging on my deck.We did this for about 30 years and never hurt the deer population,but those days are over and the 300 acres that we hunted has been sold,the deer still run the same patterns year after year and I just happen to be in the middle of it.I still bow and gun hunt, just wait for them to come to me now,too old to run the bluffs anymore,but still like to pop one or two off every year,buck or doe,big or small makes no diff as long as I know someone will enjoy eating it.By the way my place is for sale, if anyone wants a little piece of BC,taxes are fairly cheap,lots of wildlife. I live about 3 miles from where this buck was shot.
"Bob" I was told by a guide from that area that it is not the Monster Buck that was in the News! That they need to check into it more. If it turns out to be the same buck Congrats. I have nothing against getting the big buck.....it just drives me nuts that it is all about the money. Why can't we get back to the days when it was for food and to keep the population in check.
I think the DNR should mandate a doe only season. I also think too many people want to call themselves hunters, but really all they are doing is copying what the guys on t.v. do, and that is sitting in a tree all day long and waiting for a deer to walk by at 50 yards and shoot it with a rifle. Wow, that takes skill! If you really want to be a hunter you wannabees shouold try to figure out how to make a deer drive, and shoot a running deer at 300 yards and watch it pile up. I don't care if it's a buck, doe, or a yearling we need to get back to the roots of hunting when it was for the meat. The best part of a doe only season is that it would keep the real hunters like the ones I hunt with in the woods.The only points that matter to us are on the end of a fork. The other good part is that the outfitters and rich guys who drove up the price of land would be weaned out and real hunters like myself could afford more land and hunt it the right way, instead of the Outdoor Channel way.
This is for "Just wanna hunt". To bad a local hunter from Eau claire killed this monster buck on Nov 1st. Money did not buy this big buck. The monster buck is 3 1/2 yrs old and has 16pts will be scored as a typ. So it looks like Mr. Miller does not read the news or do you. Mr. Miller must not be in contact with the outfitter and this buck was not killed on the outfitters land. Just look into things a little more before you start typing away. Nice kill bob and I do not think you could let it get any closer then what you did(6yds).
I used to be a hunter, and did it for the sport, until the DNR started making us shoot all these does. Now I don't do it, because of that fact, and for the fact that some of todays hunters give other hunters a bad name. They are the type that will blast anything that moves, will walk through anyones land they want, and wound a deer, and not take the time to find it. As far as letting the deer live in peace. Come on and be realistic, do you like seeing starving deer, full of desiases, and hitting them with your car because they are over populated? If I were a deer, I think I would rather go with one quick gun shot, rather than getting half killed with a car, or die a slow death sarving.
P.S I also heard that Greg Miller will be the one Hunting this Monster Buck this weekend and for the rest of that week. Possible the week after that also. So who says money does not buy you Big Bucks. Want to prove other wise...... let me hunt it with out charging me!!!! Just give me 1 weekend or one day in the tree stand. Ifit's not for the money I expect a phone call telling me when I can come and bow hunt or even gun hunt that Monster Buck. So go ahead and prove that it's not for the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$!!!!!!!!!!!
Well I remember when you could go to Buffalo County and ask a farmer to hunt and they would let you..Now they say you can if you pay.So what does this say about our country? Everyone is out for money. This so called Dnr Crp land.....well they tell you that they already have hunters out there. Now that is a bunch of bull! Hunting is become the rich mans sport. My family hunts for the meat.Which is our main meat. I'm not saying that it would not be nice to get a big buck but it is just as rewarding to get a doe. I do both bow and gun. Bow brings you to nature more than gun.I could care less if I see anything but a bird, it's very peaceful. The person who gets this monster buck will be someone with money to waste!!!!!!! Because that is the way our country is!
Shooting a deer from 100 plus yards is tough, and I encourage the Average Joe to go out and try it. Also, walking around all the time while you deer hunt is just gonna scare everything off. Granted people do deer drives to try and spook something up, I still prefer sitting in a stand, and just enjoying the outdoors. If you don't like hunting, fine, don't do it. If you prefer bow hunting, then go bow hunting. If you like to rifle hunt, then rifle hunt. I agree with bowhunter. It is always a thrill to see a big buck, but the whole purpose of the hunt is to try and control the population of the deer herd in the area. The area I hunt used to be an earn-a-buck area, but no longer is, but whether I see a doe or a small 6 point buck, I'm gonna shoot it. I would much rather kill a deer with a rifle or bow than with my car.
Why would you sit in a tree with a rifle? Get out there and walk around. Nobody does that anymore. That's called hunting.
can any of you hunters spell...what a great sport sit in a tree with a rifle that shoots 100 plus yrds or more, thats got to be tough
I honestly believe that Bow Hunting has totally ruined deer hunting. It's turned far to many people into trophy hunters. Therefore allowing outrageous land rentals, Outfitters charging to hunt because trophy hunters will pay the prices. Not to mention the number of big bucks that get wounded and never found. Etc Etc. PETA loves to hate these types.
After reading all the comments about this big buck and hunting there are more hard feelings over deer hunting. Also there are alot of friends lost because of a dumb deer. I my self is a deer hunter.