School Bus Rollover Sends Driver and Student to the Hospital
School Bus Rollover Sends Driver and Student to the Hospital Save Email Print
Posted: 9:05 AM Nov 10, 2008
Last Updated: 10:41 PM Nov 10, 2008
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A school bus driver and a student went to the hospital after the bus missed a curve and rolled into a field.

It happened just before 7:00 a.m. at the intersection of County Road F and 50th Avenue, just west of Chippewa Falls. Investigators say the student and the driver were sent to the hospital as a precaution, and that the injuries aren't considered serious. Everyone on Bus 331 got out on their own through the broken windshield. Captain Eugene Gutsch with the Chippewa County Sheriff's Department says the bus was going too fast for conditions as it went around a curve.

Earlier Monday morning the Chippewa County Sheriff's Department told WEAU 13 NEWS that two kids were sent to the hospital but now says only one student and the bus driver were sent to the hospital.

The bus was the only vehicle involved. Six kids were on the bus at the time of the crash. Chippewa Falls Superintendent Mike Schoch says the student was treated and released from a hospital. A spokesman for Chippewa Yellow Bus says driver Mary Martin also was taken to a hospital.

Yellow Bus Safety Director Kurt Nelson says Martin has 22 years of experience and a good safety record. The accident remains under investigation.

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Posted by: leslie Location: menomonie on Jun 3, 2009 at 12:42 PM
I think C.F. busing should take a long hard look at who is driving their children around.

Posted by: just a lame bus driver Location: CF on Nov 12, 2008 at 06:14 PM
I really thought I could read some of this and not respond as my name states I am just a lame Bus driver as many of the student have asked me about my "job". Questions from them (or their parents?) have been..why did you choose to do such a lame job? My response has and always will be, because I respected my Bus driver and all he put up with to make sure I was able to and from school safe. I was one of those kids that helped the driver when things got out of hand. Kids have bad days and most of them come from homes that are not respectful. Sorry.. mine (home) really didn't care if I made it to school or not, but my Bus driver did!.God Bless Him and Mary too! And thank God everyone is alive from a terrible ACCIDENT. Teach your children that bus drivers should be respected and we are not their babysitters!

Posted by: Chippewa Resident on Nov 12, 2008 at 11:40 AM
I know alot of School Bus Drivers and they put up with alot of stuff everyday just like the comment before me. So many people go threw there Reds, pass them because they are not going fast enough, or drive really close to the back end. For the bus company maybe you Chippewa Falls parents and others should let the Bus Company know when the drivers are doing wrong. How are they suppose to know, they are in the office. People need to tell them so they are aware of this and they can handle it. As for some of you parents....drivers are not perfect and either are you...do you want to know how many times THESE DRIVERS sit outside waiting and waiting because you dont have your kids ready or how about when your not home and they have to stay on the bus longer and the DRIVER has to go back to there house. So maybe they forget to pick them up. but people make mistakes, same with some of you parents not being home when your kids needs to be dropped off! This was an accident..

Posted by: Chippewa Resident on Nov 11, 2008 at 07:32 PM
I haven't driven on that road since it was re-done, but before that that particular corner was always covered in sand regardless of season. I can see how a top-heavy vehicle like a bus could tip over there. I am pretty sure that the driver could have avoided this accident - had weather been different I might not say that. Parents are upset because it was avoidable. I agree with previous posters who say that concerns need to be made known to the school district. I know a lot of great drivers for Chippewa, but I have also witnessed the not-so-great. They witness us too ... passing in no-passing zones, running their stop lights, and pulling out in front of them, and they deal with long routes with unrealistic time constraints (and no time to even go to the bathroom), all sorts of weather, and all sorts of kids and their parents. I appreciate what they do for me. We have to be voices for our kids. If you or your child have a concern, you need to let the Bus Co know, and follow up on it

Posted by: glad I don't have young kids on Nov 11, 2008 at 06:55 PM
I agree that the some of the Chippewa buses go way to fast. There is a bus over in the Hallie area and she is always racing to her next stop. That same bus driver has also been seen not opening her doors at the rail road tracks on 40th Ave. I do not have children in school, but if I did, I would not want them riding on that bus that goes through Hallie. She would be one of the "not so good drivers" employeed by the Chippewa Yellow Bus.

Posted by: Jane Location: E.C. on Nov 11, 2008 at 06:08 PM
It's hard to read these posts. We all know that accidents happen and that, sometimes, people are found negligent. There's a really nice court system that's going to figure all this out. Let's put our faith in them. Teaching is hard work, driving a bus is hard work, and being a parent is hard work. Nobody is going to argue any of that. How about if each and every one of you stop for a second and think. Think about what you're about to type. Will it solve the situation? Are you adding to the solution or adding to the problem? Let's be smart about this, people. Accidents happen. I'm willing to bet that most parents that have children on that particular route feel more than safe with their driver. More than likely because they know the situation. We don't. Stop attacking people.

Posted by: student Location: Chippewa Falls on Nov 11, 2008 at 04:32 PM
MY GOD!!!!!!!Some of you people make me sick! This is a trajic event that hppened but you PARENTS need to do something besides sitting behind your keyboards and complaining about things that YOU can fix!!!!!!! Us kids cannot fix these things because you PARENTS think we know nothing about life.( By the way I truly am a kid just for all you non belivers!)I'm sick that you do is bicker and say to get new jobs and everything. I don't know if you noticed but we need to keep whatever job we have during thes times. To concerened dad, if you had to drive a bus full of kids would you take your time, or would try to hurry. I know it's not right to speed but explain to me then why people still pass these buses even if they are going over the spped limit. Sometimes we would have cars skyrocket past my bus and keep going!!! So please just let's all settle down and relook the situation. And remember that you sometimes can't trust what other people say YOU need to find out the info for your SELF!!!!

Posted by: A Mom Location: Chippewa on Nov 11, 2008 at 02:44 PM
Response to Your Shoes and My Shoes- I'm not currently teaching and my child was napping while I was posting. Ok with you?

Posted by: judged too Location: chippewa falls on Nov 11, 2008 at 02:26 PM
Ok so let me get this straight, we can not judge the drivers, but those who say we can't judge, can judge that if we are worried about our children, that they are the noisey bratty out of controll children that cause the problem? That we think our kids are perfect. Oh and my favorite because we are not stay at home mom's and have to work! Well the economy does not let very many have your luck there "far from perfect" I have not seen one person on these post's say there kids were perfect but yet you attack them as if they did. I did hear and see the Sheriff on the news say the bus was going to fast. Does that make Mary a bad person, no, even good people make mistakes but must be held accountable. As for the other drivers, yes there are good and I wish they did get recognized for it, I am sure the company could put a years of service thing in the paper, I saw Mason Shoe do it once! But face it people there are bad ones in there and we as a community have to demand better!

Posted by: bus driver also Location: chippewa county on Nov 11, 2008 at 02:20 PM
What makes me mad about the post "GET ANOTHER JOB" is that I LOVE my job I love going to work every day and listening to the kids tell me about there day. You wouldn't believe what you hear. Like a post that was mentioned earlier by Ken from cadott. And for this lady to be driving bus for 22 years I don't think she did this on purpose. I bet she LOVES her job and by reading some of the posts the parents and children that rode her bus care for her too!

Posted by: Lisa Location: CF on Nov 11, 2008 at 01:47 PM
To Ken: What is your bus number because I will find out, I hope you are not my son's driver. With your response maybe its time you find a different job. Chip. Cty. Bus Driver

Posted by: Sarah Location: Chippewa Falls on Nov 11, 2008 at 12:59 PM
To all you bus drivers who hate children, GET ANOTHER JOB!!!!!! Children will be nasty and not listen but what does that have to do with you speeding and driving to fast for conditions? If a child was hurt because they were not sitting in their seat and behaving then the bus driver would not be blamed but when a child is hurt due to a bus driver not driving safely then shame on them.

Posted by: Concerned Dad Location: CF on Nov 11, 2008 at 10:14 AM
I am not placing blame on anyone, but I have noticed that MOST of the buses I see around town, and in the country drive way too fast. I agree with the person that said the bus company should follow their drivers from time to time to see how they handle the bus. Yes, accidents happen, but in the same breath most accidents can be avoided. There is no way these bus drivers should be driving that fast anywhere. One bus driver posted on here that they need to follow the speed limits, well most of the ones I have seen in Chippewa do not follow the speed limits. When I was growing up, I rode one of those rowdy buses, so I know what it is like for the bus drivers. All it takes is for one driver to stop and set some rules, and everything got better real fast. It is very sad that something like this has happened, and I am very glad nobody was seriously hurt.

Posted by: Jenny Location: chippewa falls on Nov 11, 2008 at 09:08 AM
To each of you who have concerns about this issue, I beg for each and everyone to do something about this. Anything. Attend a school board meeting. There's one bus company but many parents. We are the voice for our children and to not speak on their behalf is a shame. What tragedy will it take before that bus co. is held accountable for their neglegence?

Posted by: out state bus driver Location: minnesota on Nov 11, 2008 at 08:14 AM
maybe before you hang the driver and group us all in the same boat where are the parents of these kids who do not listen to the drivers, there are bus rule why don't the sweet children behave like they are suppose t. riding the bus is a privelge. somebody better impress on the kids to behave . why do i want to drive misbehaving children. accidents happen its to bad its scarey esp with children.

Posted by: Sam Location: Chippewa Falls on Nov 11, 2008 at 06:41 AM
WOW I am so surprised a news story that means something to so many, and news center 13 does not only keeps the comment part of this story not updated but they also sweep the story under the rug! Must be because the Sheriff said the driver is at fault, I mean why should the news go with that, or with the fact that so many people fear the fact that there kids are not safe on Chippew Yellow Bus! I mean something that effects so many is not that important to news 13....Quit hiding the truth from the public, do a in depth report of just how bad this bus company is...I know not all there drivers are bad, but they allow to many to be, and when it comes to our children they should not allow any to be!

Posted by: Brandon Location: Eau Claire on Nov 10, 2008 at 11:58 PM
Ok for the people who are blaming the bus driver. Please ask and answer yourself this question. Have I ever driven a bus? Probably not, yes I know we are dealing with human lives here. But c'mon the bus driver has been bringing your kids to and from school for twenty-two years with a safe record, do you really think the driver wanted to roll the bus. Think about it this way if the news and media would put good news (Like bus driver has been accident free for their twenty two years of service) u all would be like aww thats great I'm so grateful!!! Instead the news and media puts out bad news instead of the good and what happens everyone goes bonkers and automatically blames the bus driver. Also, you do not know all the facts so just be thankful no one was seriously hurt. Lastly, I agree with most people that wrote in parents are slacking big time when it comes to teaching their kids good morals, values, and behaviors. Why do you think your kids are behaving bad...because u are.

Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 10, 2008 at 10:27 PM
to jesse from msfd yes i have riden buses when i was little and my bus driver went off the road and into the ditch on a clear day just because he wasnt paying attention

Posted by: Libertarian Location: Wisconsin on Nov 10, 2008 at 09:53 PM
I don't understand why everyone is getting so angry about this. Let the free market solve this. If you parents aren't happy with the service you're getting from the bus company you should arrange for some other form of transportation for your children. You people expect the government to step in and solve all of your problems for you - you should be ashamed of yourselves! Let the free market solve this; that is what this country was founded upon.

Posted by: Anonymous Location: Chippewa Falls on Nov 10, 2008 at 09:49 PM
I live in the area near where the accident took place and I drove my car into a ditch a week ago due to the construction. Accidents happen and people make mistakes, and yes they have to be held accountable. But please don't turn this into a witch hunt over how bad a person she is. I know from experience how good a driver she is and she still has my trust. Lots of people get into acidents with children in the car, does that make all of those drivers wrecklace and dangerous? I don't think so

Posted by: Theresa Location: Rice Lake on Nov 10, 2008 at 09:43 PM
This really doesn't help the Bus Company's reputation that much if you look at this, a previous accident, and the band crash--even though Paul was found not to blame.

Posted by: Georgette Location: Central Wis on Nov 10, 2008 at 09:22 PM
I drive bus for a central Wis bus company & am proud to be a bus driver. However there have been times the kids on my bus didn't understand when told to sit down & be quiet & leave the other students alone. When they got written up & not able to ride the bus the parents still wont do anything but complain about the bus company. These parents just also might be the ones who run the flashing red lights on a bus at a stop or maybe pulling out in front of a bus with just inches to spare before a crash. Let's not forget the people who tailgate because as bus drivers we are to do the speed limit & not over & we might be making them late for work because we are driving too slow for them. Maybe if you are out there & see a bus driver driving badly get the bus number & call the bus company & inform them. If you don't talk to a live person keep trying til you do. I for 1 love my job & don't like having others give the rest of us a bad name if they are driving badly.

Posted by: far from perfect on Nov 10, 2008 at 08:26 PM
HEY BUS COMPANY-QUIT AND LET THE BRATS WALK!!! IF ALL YOU PARENTS CAN DO IS COMPLAIN AND NOT FIND ANY GOOD IN THE BUS SERVICE-THEN DRIVE YOUR KIDS YOURSELF! DON'T BLAME ANYONE ELSE FOR SOMETHING YOU NEED TO TAKE CARE OF. YOU CHOSE TO HAVE THEM-NOW YOU TAKE CARE OF THEM OR DON'T HAVE ANY!!!!!!!!!! Only to have their parents whine & complain because they got assigned seats or were late getting to or from school. And yes, I took our kids to & from school because we planned a family so I stayed at home until they were old enough to do things for themselves because they were OUR RESPONSIBILITY. Not that they were always perfect but they knew we were always there for them & it must have done some good since they are in their early 20's & are nurses and cops now

Posted by: your shoes & my shoes Location: chippewa falls on Nov 10, 2008 at 07:31 PM
To a Mom: (teacher) Does the school district know that you are using their time and equipment to criticise school bus drivers? They can track every key stroke that is made on district computers. Maybe you should be utilitizing your time to develop lesson plans to educate our children instead of making negative comments regarding bus drivers not doing their job. Also try teaching your class of maybe 27 kids with your back turned to them, compared to a bus full of sometimes 72 kids. Not to mention driving under all kinds of traffic and road conditions. Don't be so quick to criticise before you know the whole story.

Posted by: student Location: chippewa falls on Nov 10, 2008 at 07:21 PM
Okay, so the bus flipped over....yes, it's tragic, but we can't point fingers at people and start saying that the world is terrible when we don't even know why it happened. Remember, when you point one finger, you have three pointing right back at you. I used to ride a bus and let me tell you that the bus drivers are very lucky and gifted if they can control their bus. The bus that I used to ride had almost 2 kids to a seat every day! The bus driver couldn't see everything we did but when she did it wasn't pretty. One day she even had a police officer come on because nobody would sit down and be quiet. So to all you parents who think that your kids are perfect angels you are sadly mistaken when it comes to the bus rides to and from school.

Posted by: Crystal Location: Chippewa Falls on Nov 10, 2008 at 06:54 PM
Here is a suggestion to the bus company, I would give it to them, but they NEVER answer or return phone calls! It seems your drivers are worried about the "little angels" and us as parents can't get some drivers to enforce rules, why not install camera's on the buses, it is not as expensive as people may think, and as soon as that red light is on watch the difference in the kids. Or aren't the lives of our children and the sanity of your drivers worth that?

Posted by: Cindy Location: Chippewa Falls on Nov 10, 2008 at 06:21 PM
I ride on bus number 292 my driver is Missy and she does a Great job, she even asks us not to stand so close to the road in the winter incase the bus would slide. We are not allowed to get out of control if we do the bus stops and does not move tell we are in control. My poor siblings have the direct opposite of Missy! They ride bus 400 and I stand out and wait for the bus with them, because of living on a corner I stand back about 15' from the road. Since it became dark out early I could not see the driver wave the kids across so I walked them across and asked him to please open the window and wave because of this. I was told in a very snotty way "Why don't you stand at the road and maybe you could actually see me" So I am suppose to put my siblings at risk because this jerk does not want to open a window? I have seen kids hang out the windows in movement, The bus co. should be happy this was not bus 400 or they would have decapatated, pinned or dead kids! ENFORCE SAFETY!!

Posted by: Driver Location: Chippewa Falls on Nov 10, 2008 at 05:48 PM
I am so glad Mary has so many supporters, however it sickens me on how much denile they have. Here is a fact about every single time I take the road, how good I was yesterday or will be tomarrow does not matter, how good I am right now is the only thing that does! And in the right now she was not! As for so quick to judge the sheriff said she was going to fast, or have you convinced yourself that he is not telling the truth. The sad fact is that your driver might have normally been a safe driver but to many of Chippewa Yellow Bus are not, and they don't care! As a former officer of the law,here is what I think should be done about out of control kids and buses, I think the cities/ villages/ County officers should get together and follow these buses and the ones that are not in control pull them over and warn them, enter in the system when and where that bus was giving that warning and if they catch it again TICKET THEM! Not all bus drivers are bad but some need a lesson!

Posted by: Anonymous Location: chippewa falls on Nov 10, 2008 at 05:46 PM
you are saything that the co. isn't a good co. and they forget your kids and dont answer the phone. They are on that phone from a hour before school until a hour after school! They are trying to answer all parents phone calls Don't be so quick to judge if your not in there shoes. You do your job the best you can so are they.

Posted by: Alex Location: Chippewa Falls on Nov 10, 2008 at 05:42 PM
I want everyone to know look at what your putting on here. for one thing, It's not just chippewa yallow bus co. that have bad drivers. It is EVERYWHERE! if you are so scared about your kid riding the bus then dont have them ride and if that is the case dont let them , go to school, go to daycare,have a babysitter and dont let them drive! People make mistakes i am sure everyone that has put something on here has. Yes there were kids involved, as a mother i do know i have made mistakes with my kids. I will agree that bus drivers should always look out for the kids sake. they are number 1 on the list, but bus drivers should not have to put up with kids that dont know how to stay in there seats, I do know if teachers can do it then why can't bus drivers but they also need to get them to school and back safe. I will say I do believe every bus driver cares and wants the bus to be safe for the kids. that is why the chose this job! dont just blame the chippewa yellow bus co. It's a good co.

Posted by: Angie Location: CF on Nov 10, 2008 at 05:31 PM
This article leaves me absolutely torn! I have children that ride the bus in CF leaving me concerned but it also leaves me upset to see every one attacking each other in the comments. My children have ridden the bus in CF for many years & I have had issues with the company & drivers as well. We finally have a good bus driver thank god for that, for I put my children in their care each & every school day. There are drivers I have seen when I am on the road that are speeding or have pulled out in front of me! I think we can all agree that it is first the parents’ responsibility to teach our children the rules of safety on the bus but the drivers also have to find ways to enforce it for we are not there. Remember it is children on these buses. Be it a parent, a driver, or a teacher we all need to work together & drivers need to remember that just because they drive a bus for years and treat the kids good does not mean they can become relaxed in routines of driving. Speeding is tolerable!

Posted by: Becca Location: Mary's old bus route on Nov 10, 2008 at 05:27 PM
(continued)..accidents happen all of the time. You can't do anything to stop it. That's why it's called an accident. The bus accident 3 years ago isn't the same situation. There was no jacke-knifed semi to cause this and people didn't die today. So don't go comparing them. I'm pretty sure that most of you concerned parents couldn't handle a bus of kids. Maybe a car full. But that's it. Since none of you were there you can't judge what happend right away. Wait for the actual story. Rumors do nothing but get people talking. And you can assume stupid things but it won't do anything. Why don't all of you just put yourself in her position for 2 minutes. Still feel it's her fault? Nobody was seriosuly injured. Be thamkful and greatful for that. Not accusive of who's fault it is .I'm willing to bet that there could have been a kid messing around. I've been on a bus full of little kids. I know what it can be like. People come to accusations so fast it pathetic. Be ashamed. Seriously. Good Bye..

Posted by: Becca Location: Mary's old bus route. on Nov 10, 2008 at 05:11 PM
Ok. For all of you people to know. I rode Mary's bus for 9 years. Never one accident. When kids got too out of hand she would pull over and wait until they calmed down. Mary was/is my favorite bus driver. You can't just go blaming her for it. You don't know what happend. So STOP JUDGING!! It's rediculous. Andrea and Dawn: kudos. Yes, the bus has gotten out of control but even I helped Mary out with the naughty kids so she could pay attention to the road. Can you show a little sympathy? I know that she feels bad about it already so just stop cyber-attacking her. She's not perfect. I absolutely love her. She was always a good bus-driver. Yes, sometimes drivers miss a stop but if some of you didn't have such obnoxious kids maybe they wouldn't have to be watching them. Think about that. Along with the construction, they just put a curb on that road and taking a corner with a bus isn't the easiest thing to do. Sometimes they go 2 inches in the gravle. So a curb is something to get used to.

Posted by: fed up parent Location: Chippewa Falls on Nov 10, 2008 at 04:47 PM
Has anyone complaining here ever tried to reach the mismanaged Chip bus company? GOOD LUCK!!! Kurt the manager, well he does not like to grace to many with the honor of his time! I too like concerned parent below had the terrifying experience of my 8 year old not returning home! I was home alone I did not want to leave, what if my child returned. I spent forever even trying to reach that bus company, the school telling me they got on the bus, the bus company impossible to reach! Another time, the bus was over 35 minutes late returning, try to reach them, good luck, finally called chippewa trails (at the time the were in the same building) "Oh they are late, I don't know let me contact the driver...oh they broke down, don't worry" It is sick how this bus company can get away with so much! Demand more from them, your childrens lives are at risk! Safe driver or not this driver was not a safe driver today were they? Accident, yeah it was, but one a brake pedal could have avoided!

Posted by: Resident Location: Chippewa Falls on Nov 10, 2008 at 04:02 PM
First and foremost... thanks to all the drivers who are doing the right things, but wear a black eye today because of others. With the traffic here it is evident that this topic is serious enough to get some attention from the school district and bus company at a minimum. From what I understand the bus was upside down before 7 am this morning with pre-school children onboard. Pre-school does not begin until 8 am! The fact we have 4 year olds on a bus for over an hour to go to pre-schoos is unacceptable. We need more busses to solve this issue before winter hits and that hour is extended even longer "Due to conditions". Next, for a bus with school age children to be traveling at a speed (Not on the highway/freeway) in a construction area, fast enough to roll over is UNSATISFACTORY! If the news does not run with this and demand attention be placed on this issue, we as parents, citizens and residents need to be heard! THIS IS NOT OK...

Posted by: Anonymous Location: Chippewa Falls on Nov 10, 2008 at 03:55 PM
I am sickened by the fact that some of you will not hold the bus driver accountable! How quick you are to say for us to shut up and not be upset! Did you give the semi driver from 3 years ago as much sympathy? Or is it just the bus drivers in this community that never can receive critisism for the fact that they practiced unsafe driving? What if all 6 of those kids died, because of someone who did not want to brake a little before going around a corner they should have known was unsafe, then you would not have a child to put back on that bus. Sad fact is that we as a society need to be safe behind the wheel of any vehicle, and if you are not and you cause something like this, yes that is what our legal system is for, if not then you are letting the driver get away with allowing the kids to get away with unsafe habbits of buses! In a town I use to live in police were not afraid to pull over buses that were out of control. That alone made buses stay in control!

Posted by: mother Location: chippewa on Nov 10, 2008 at 03:53 PM
I would like to say that Mary is great to her kids on the bus and is very cautious. It was a freak accident and already people make judgement. Nobody knows what happened or why it happened so maybe everybody should not open their mouths until they can say this is exactly what happened because they were on the bus. Accidents can happen to anyone including all of you running your mouths without any knowledge of the accident. Do you all believe everything you hear and read? My kids ride that bus and will continue to do so and hopefully it will be with Mary driving!!! I am not a bus driver due to the huge responsibility they have and the little pay and the abnormal hours. Thank you to all bus drivers and keep up the great work. Thank you Mary and get well soon so the kids have you back!!!!

Posted by: Anonymous Location: Chippewa Falls, WI on Nov 10, 2008 at 03:40 PM
I am a former passenger of Chippewa Yellow Bus, I have had two differnt bus drivers in all my years of riding them, Missy and Gladys, were what drivers should be, nice, respectful and at the same time ruler of the bus. If our bus either one ever got out of control it pulled over until it was in control. If a bus driver practices this, yeah they might be late, but the kids do listen! Now I have siblings on a totally different driver, and I HATE there bus driver, kids hanging out there window, yelling and screaming, punching and hitting, and when someone tries to correct it the bus driver pretty much tells us to stay out of it. So every day I hear my mom lecture my siblings on safty, and yet today after this terrible accident, the bus driver still had kids hanging out the window screaming and yelling and instead of sitting still and say we are not moving he drove away with heads out the windows & screaming kids! This proves not all bus drivers derserve credit they deserve repromands!

Posted by: Carrie Location: Barron on Nov 10, 2008 at 03:30 PM
Be lucky your kids don't ride the Barron school district busses. One particular driver is dangerous in my opinion, ALWAYS speeding. What are the qulifications they need to be drivers. They know someone who knows someone. I think all the districts should have a little safty reminder day for all the drivers. And give them a test and see how they do.

Posted by: Anonymous Location: Chippewa Falls on Nov 10, 2008 at 03:26 PM
"This driver is a safe driver" "It is the construction that made it so dangerous" "It was just a accident" Well the driver might normally be a safe driver but news flash THEY WERE NOT TODAY! As for the construction, everyone that gets behind any wheel,bus or not should not be going so fast around any corner that they can not control the vehicle exspecially one that knows from driving that route how dangerous construction has made that corner! As for it being just a accident, yes it was a accident, but if some car ran over your child because they took a corner to fast would that be ok...would that be acceptable? NO, so why should it be acceptable now? I also tell my children the importance of being quiet on the bus, even showed them the pics of this accident (even tho I don't think noisey kids had any part in this). Bus drivers commenting on this, no you are not all bad but you are also not all good in any means! Chip Yellow bus needs better management so are kids are safe!

Posted by: Lori Location: eau claire on Nov 10, 2008 at 03:11 PM
Until you know the story you can't judge anyone. People now days are quick to judge but don't want to be judged themselves. Also you don't know what happened so you should keep your mouths shut until you walk a day in some elses shoes. I am a mother of 3 boys and I put alot of respect into a person that is willing to do all they can to protect the kids but there is alot of drivers who drive very dangerous and I don't you ripping on them on here.

Posted by: Drivers Wife Location: Stanley WI on Nov 10, 2008 at 02:38 PM
Mary- you are to be commended for teaching your children respect and manners. My comments were not directed to the children that obey the rules and respect the driver as well as the other students. He has has had many great passengers over the years along with habitual ones that were always in trouble and backed by parents that gave him nothing but grief. Their children could do no wrong. He fortunately never has never had an accident but has been in the ditch a few times, snow covered roads and Wisconsin weather. His riders safety always came first, even if he had to pull a bus over to the side of the road to restore order! Their first priority should be your childs safety along with their own. Give respect and you will get it back. We have some great drivers out there and when something like this happens please don't assume all drivers are incompetent.

Posted by: A Mom Location: Chippewa on Nov 10, 2008 at 02:31 PM
First I'd like to re-state that there were SIX children on this bus. Not 65 screaming kids. Second I'd like to state that I am a teacher that you are driving these "screaming kids" to- so I can deal with it for 7 hours. I have very little sympathy for your short drive. I suggest you implement some rules or change occupations. "Screaming kids" is not an acceptable excuse for flipping a bus.

Posted by: concerned parent Location: chippewa on Nov 10, 2008 at 02:26 PM
PATHETIC!!! I am a parent of students that attend school in Chippewa. Let me be the first to inform people that it's not a safe bus company. My kids have been dropped off at the wrong place (indcluding a tavern), the driver "forgets" to pick them up in the a.m, the bus co. calls and says "we don't know where your kids are", the list could continue for awhile. When I need to call I hardly ever get through, and if I leave a message, often times there's no response. We need to do something about this situation. People need to be held accountable for their actions- or lack of them. We need to have more choices for our children. But right now there is only either except what happens and just deal with it, or provide your own transportation. What is it going to take folks????

Posted by: Give me a Break! Location: Chippewa on Nov 10, 2008 at 02:24 PM
If I recall correctly- nobody is FORCED to be a bus driver. If 65 screaming kids isn't something you can handle- don't drive a bus. When I rode the bus my bus driver would pull over and make us sit until we all settled down and were sitting in our seats quietly. Maybe bus drivers should implement some RULES on their bus like teachers do in their classrooms.

Posted by: Carrie Location: Bloomer on Nov 10, 2008 at 02:05 PM
Well Sarah-have you ever been on a school bus because of the way you are speaking if sounds like you have never been on one? You will have any where from 15- 60 kids at a time on a bus and do You Really think that putting seat belts are going to keep the kids is order, let me ask you this, have you ever had a birthday party for your kids, and how wild kids can get when they are together, we don't have a principal to send them to and when we do write them up the parents always say the same thing my kid wouldn't do that, well it is time you all parents to wake up to realize that there kids are wild and crazy on a bus with all there freinds, and to answer you question- yes my kids where there seat belts in my car but that is because it's a law in a CAR not a BUS because they know it wouldn't make a differents, because we are to watch the road not to sit there and make sure these kids have there belts on, did you ever stop to think that maybe she was looking in the mirror checking on kids

Posted by: Chippewa County Resident Location: Chippewa County on Nov 10, 2008 at 02:04 PM
About the seat belts in the bus. Do you really think the kids will wear them? And if they don't? And if they do? You can enforce them, but there are good things and bad things about them. 1. They could be used as weapons, hitting other kids and objects causing more distraction. 2. If the bus driver were in a accident(tragic) and everyone is buckled in, who is to say there will be enough time for everyone to get unbuckled and out of the bus. I feel the bus is safer without them. That is my opinion. Sarah(EC) The bus driver was behind the wheel, and you don't know if the road caused her to go off? Its already happened in Chetek, the driver pulled to the side of the road to deal with an unruly passenger and the road gave way flipped the bus right over on its side. You were not there, YOU probably don't drive bus so you don't know how the buses handle in uneven situations. Until the investigation is complete we will not know what happened!

Posted by: A Mom Location: Chippewa on Nov 10, 2008 at 01:58 PM
I'm clarifying my own post. When I said forgotten on the bus routes- I didn't mean forgotten to be picked up. I meant forgotten to be dropped off. How does that happen? Especially with only a few kids on the bus route?

Posted by: Retired Location: Chippewa county on Nov 10, 2008 at 01:51 PM
Hello Annonoymous, Did you ever try driving any bus with 65 screaming kids??? It's not much fun, if you think so run right over and pick up a application form.Take all the test but be ready for all the responsibility,it will blow your mind.

Posted by: sarah Location: Eau Claire on Nov 10, 2008 at 01:15 PM
Ken-Is their anything wrong with "Checking" up on someones work? If your bus driving is perfect than you have nothing to worry about-But you cannot speak for every bus driver. You have to agree that some Drivers just are not cautious enough!

Posted by: A Mom Location: Chippewa on Nov 10, 2008 at 01:11 PM
Quite honestly I think something needs to be done with this bus company. Not only are there accidents but children are being "forgotten" on the bus routes. When a complaint is called in there is no response. How professional is that? Come on people- these are our Children. If we don't advocate for them who will?

Posted by: sarah Location: Eau Claire on Nov 10, 2008 at 01:09 PM
Carrie-If the bus driver is not at fault who is? Who was behind the wheel? I'm sure the road didn't cause it to go off! Let me ask you this? Do your kids where belts in the car? When they are in their belts do they jump all over?

Posted by: Mary Location: Chippewa Falls on Nov 10, 2008 at 12:54 PM
In response to "Drivers wife" in Chippewa Falls if you want to ride the bus you have to have a background check done on you. So you can't just "volunteer" to ride the bus. And actually I do teach my children how to behave on the bus. Not all children climb over seats, scream and hollar.

Posted by: Carrie Location: Bloomer on Nov 10, 2008 at 12:52 PM
I would like all of the people who think that the driver is at fault to get there bus endorsements and try driving a school bus with children. I drove for Chippewa Yellow Bus for 8 years and we all take hauling children very serious, but the statement so of you are make are just crazy. Okay so they put seat belts in the bus, who is going to make sure that all the students are wearing them would you like your tax dollars to pay for some one to sit on the bus to make sure your kid has the seat belt on- of course not, because as a bus drive we are to watch the road watch the kids a watch out for drivers who don't pay attention and run our lights, but that is okay for regular drivers to do this, and as soon as some bus driver has an accident right away we are these crazy drivers, i'm sorry the the kids that got hurt but there is a reason the call it and accendent and nobody is perfect, so lets start using our heads alittle would we people, we are not perfect!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: sarah Location: Eau Claire on Nov 10, 2008 at 12:46 PM
That's why Seat Belts should be placed on the bus! Kids won't have the option to sit on seats and jump all over the place. yes I agree Parents need to discipline their children. Yes-Have volunteers ride on the busses to help with the dicipling!!!

Posted by: Erica Location: Chippewa Falls on Nov 10, 2008 at 12:43 PM
Ill tell you from experience with this driver i rode on her bus all through my years in school she is a great driver and im sure it wasnt her fault i also live a mile down from where this happend and HWY F us all under construction.. So anyone thats saying she shouldnt be driving ure nuts shes a great driver and i would trust her with my children anyday!

Posted by: Chip. Cty. Bus Driver Location: Chippewa Co on Nov 10, 2008 at 12:38 PM
Response to Sarah Eau Claire: First of all for all you parents out there that think your CHILD can do no wrong I invite you to ride your childs bus and see what the bus driver has to deal with. But being that there is another adult on the bus the kids I am sure they will be better behaved than they usually are! Response to Sarah Chippewa Falls: People are always so quick to judge, criminal charges? Lets get all the facts before we start charging someone! I am glad your son isn't on my bus "little angel" Ya its up to me to keep the kids safe while driving the bus, but it is your childs responsibility to sit down and keep there mouths shut and not to distract the driver! Thanks Ken!

Posted by: Drivers wife Location: Stanley WI on Nov 10, 2008 at 12:25 PM
Right away the attack on the bus driver starts. How many of you parents teach your children that they need to sit down and behave while riding. Do you allow your children to scream and hollar along with jumping all over the place while you are driving? Do they listen to and show respect to the driver as well as all the other passengers? Volunteer to ride a bus sometime and see what goes on and you may have your eyes opened to what these brave people go through every day.

Posted by: Andrea Location: Chippewa Falls on Nov 10, 2008 at 12:18 PM
When are you people going to stop judging this bus driver or any bus driver for that matter. Do you know what is it like to dirve a bus load of kids? I doubt it. That isnt the point in this case though. This was my bus driver when I was in elementary school and my brother now rides this bus. I would never doubt her judgment and completely trust her. ACCIDENTS happen. Yes it is up to her to keep those kids safe, so when other people get into an accident with their car and their kids are in there, should they face criminal charges? because its the parents job to keep their kids safe too! I love this bus driver very much! And I hope that everything works out and that she keeps driving because if she didnt, Chippewa Yellow Bus company would be losing one of their best drivers. ACCIDENTS happen to everyone.

Posted by: sarah Location: Eau Claire on Nov 10, 2008 at 12:11 PM
I agree with Sarah (CF) These bus drivers drive way too fast..My son came home the other day with a bump on his head, because the driver took a corner too fast and his head slammed up against the window!I think the bus company should peridically follow these bus drivers and see for themselves how they drive!

Posted by: chuck Location: chippewa on Nov 10, 2008 at 12:09 PM
Have any of you ever been in an accident? It's an accident for a reason no matter how well trained you are there are always going to be accidents! I know I'm not perfect but maybe some of you on here are.

Posted by: Anonymous Location: Chippewa Falls, WI on Nov 10, 2008 at 11:59 AM
I am disturbed by this story and also by the response of Dawn from Chippewa Falls, granted your bus driver might be a safe driver but today that driver was not! And construction...well that should have made your experienced driver that drives that route daily aware it is more important then ever to slow down! As to another comment, yes drivers do have so much to deal with but part of that is stricty because they don't inforce the rules...they are transporting children, and if they don't teach them can't do something, well that is no different then saying they can. It is a sad sad day for the children on that bus, thankfully no serious or fatal injuries came of this, but if we as parents don't demand better from this company we will have the same thing as when they ran Chippewa Trails three years ago! When is enough enough for this dispicably ran company?

Posted by: abc Location: e.c. on Nov 10, 2008 at 11:58 AM
This was an ACCIDENT!! Driving to fast for conditions could mean many things. people mneed to know the whole story before judgement. yes the bus drivers have a lot on their shoulders, and things will happen. If anything i'm more concerned about my children near the road with all the other drivers out there.........

Posted by: Sue Location: Chippewa on Nov 10, 2008 at 11:52 AM
Condemn the bus drivers!!! Do you know how many times a driver has to stop the bus because the children do not stay in their seats, they sit on top of the backs of the seats, fight with someone else??? Granted this bus driver MAY have been going to fast OR was he disciplining? It is time for parents to teach their children RESPECT and MANNERS on the bus then the bus driver will be able to do their job, get the students to school and home safely!

Posted by: A mom in CF Location: CF on Nov 10, 2008 at 11:42 AM
In response I am very thankful that my kid's bus driver is a former DMV employee. He is wonderful and I wish at all bus drivers were like him. However I do know that not all Chippewa drivers are that caring or good.

Posted by: Sarah Location: Chippewa Falls on Nov 10, 2008 at 11:22 AM
Driving too fast for conditions, this driver should be facing criminal charges!!!! You have children in your care that do not wear seat belts. It is up to you to keep them safe. On my way to work I pass through two school zones and the way the bus drivers drive scares me. I am glad I am able to drive my son to school myself.

Posted by: Dawn Location: Chippewa Falls on Nov 10, 2008 at 11:18 AM
This particular bus driver has been the driver of my children for over 20 years. I don't recall the driver ever being in an accident before this. There has been construction at this corner and without knowing all the facts, it is quite possible that may have also been a factor in the ACCIDENT. I have complete confidence in this driver.

Posted by: sarah Location: Eau Claire on Nov 10, 2008 at 11:11 AM
When are Seat Belts going to be put on these buses? Bus Drivers need to be taught to "STOP" the bus to talk to the children. Our Bus Companies need to start inforcing some rules and regulations!

Posted by: Anonymous Location: CF on Nov 10, 2008 at 11:05 AM
Where does Chippewa Yellow Bus find thier bus drivers? How many accidents is that for them so far this year and it is only 2 months into school. Makes you wonder how well our tax dollars are being spent.

Posted by: KEN Location: CADOTT on Nov 10, 2008 at 10:30 AM
IN RESPONSE TO ANNONYMOUS, WHEN ARE THE BUS DRIVERS GOING TO GET PAID FOR WHAT THEY MUST BE, A DOCTOR, A ATTORNEY, A POLICEMAN, SOCIALWORKER, A TEACHER , MECHANIC ETC. I'M SO GLAD MY LICENSE RAN OUT, MAY GOD BLESS ALL BUS DRIVERS.

Posted by: Jesse Location: MSFD on Nov 10, 2008 at 10:28 AM
Your grammar clearly shows us you have never ridden on a school bus Anonymous.

Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 10, 2008 at 10:02 AM
when are bus drivers gonna learn to slow down and pay attention to the roads its not like their the only one on these buses hopefully the two kids sent to the hospital will be ok