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Updated: 2:58 PM May 7, 2009
Man Who Shot Pets in Front of Kids Gets Jail Time and Community Service
The man who shot six pets to death in front of children was ordered to spend nearly nine months in jail and do 100 hours of community service, preferably with animals. Posted: 10:57 AM May 7, 2009Reporter: Mark Povolny and Kelly Schlicht Email Address: mark.povolny@weau.com, kelly.schlicht@weau.com |
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Posted by: ANON
on May 7, 2009 at 01:10 PM
Thats it!! 9 months jail time & community service!!!??
Posted by: Trish
Location: Eau Claire
on May 7, 2009 at 12:59 PM
I cannot fully express how angry and sick this makes me. To call this as an error in judgement while drinking is just a lie. It took him some time to kill all of those pets and then they left a child there to clean up this horrible mess. The couple is obviously just saying what they need to so they get off the hook. And yes, I do believe that an animal's life is worth something (as well as a child's mental health), and if it were legal, I would insist on giving him the fitting punishment for what he did.
Posted by: Anonymous
on May 7, 2009 at 12:33 PM
Why would they have him do volunteer work with animals? That seems wrong!
Posted by: Mike
Location: Eau Claire
on May 7, 2009 at 12:02 PM
I am sorry, but these people should NEVER and I mean NEVER, own another animal as long as they are alive. They have given up that right by taking the action they did. I believe that the 100 hours of community service should be in an animal shelter, giving back to the population that was taken from. I hope that Social Services monitors the family to assist in getting them the help they desperately need.
Posted by: Deb
Location: Whitehall
on May 7, 2009 at 11:18 AM
I hope he learns something, but I get the feeling he's just going to resent it and end up hating animals and children more.
Posted by: Upset
Location: Eau Claire
on Mar 20, 2009 at 12:15 PM
This is a problem and has been for a while. As the report reads, they have had several calls regarding the children's welfare. I went to school with some of the family and I have driven by this house countless times. It was very apparent to me, that something needed to be done for a long time...but as the report also read...they did not find anything when they went on the house calls that they received. Drinking that mush IS NOT normal. Executing animals (or anyone) IS NOT normal. Keeping your house that bad...IS NOT normal. Having no remorse IS NOT normal. There are some serious issues that NEED to be addressed. We are all adults and know the difference from right and wrong. This couple did not and I can only hope that they get the punishment as well as the treatment that they need.
Posted by: Stewie
on Mar 18, 2009 at 07:39 PM
Apparently, the people from Tomah share the same idiot gene as this guy from Boyd. Maybe Bob and Tom from Tomah should visit idiot-ville sometime. They should stop by my town on the way.
Posted by: Anonymous
Location: Menomonie
on Mar 18, 2009 at 07:39 PM
Why are people so upset about this? When people kill other people execution style, they are most likely put in jail for many years, if not for life. If the live in a state with the death penalty are they shot execution style? If this man would have killed 6 people execution style, in front of his children, I imagine there would be thousands more comments and death threats against the man. The animals were innocent. Yes Cletus in America, there ARE too many animals, if you can't afford them, don't keep getting more. As for Anonymous on March 17, yes kids do hunt and kill animals. That is not the same as getting drunk, rounding them up and killing them execution style in front of the family. And yes farmers put animals down, not execution style. I am tired of all the big country folk killing anything that crosses their path.
Posted by: Kate
Location: Wisconsin
on Mar 18, 2009 at 03:31 PM
Cletus - you are 1 sick man too, if you do not see this as animal and child abuse, and alcoholism.
Posted by: Anonymous
on Mar 18, 2009 at 12:39 PM
WHY ?!? Why would such a heartless, unremorseful, sick indiviual such as this be released ? I believe he should spend many years behind bars! Why does this man deserve to walk free as his children never will ? Such an act of "STUPIDITY" to say the least. These poor children must now live the remainder of their lives trying to cope with the emotional/mental distress they have caused them. Is this any way to treat those you love ? Emotional and mental scars take alot longer to heal than physical scarring. FORTUNATELY for the childrens sake they did not suffer physical harm and the hands of these maniacs. SICK people such as these deserve nothing less than PRISON time and alot of it !!! To the children - God bless you all now and forever. I'm sorry your parents are such HEARTLESS IDIOTS that care only of themselves.
Posted by: Anonymous
Location: Chippewa
on Mar 18, 2009 at 11:25 AM
I find it hard to believe that there is so many comments on this story when there is so little on stories about people killing people in fornt of others. why is it that we take such a high stand on animal cruelity? It is horrible that they were shot in front of his children that is his only mistake that people should be concerned about. I see news stories about people killing each other in front of children and they only have one or two posts. Pet advocates need to stop putting animals on such a high pedistal.
Posted by: cletus
Location: America
on Mar 18, 2009 at 10:03 AM
There is to many cats and dogs anyways. I like the cheap method of getting them fixed by shooting them. As for the kids they need to learn about death sometime.
Posted by: Anonymous
on Mar 18, 2009 at 09:18 AM
This man should sit in prison for the remainder of his life as he has taken - so to speak the lives of his children. He didn't mean the children any harm ?!? Sure, no physical harm toward them was committed but what about the life long emotional and mental harm this children will suffer because of him ?!? I say - no "joy ride" for him - make him suffer the consequences of his actions to the ultimate degree of punishment possible ! To the children - may God be with you and keep you safe.
Posted by: Steven
Location: EC Co
on Mar 17, 2009 at 09:16 PM
I'm just glad it's Judge Cray hearing this case. The other one would probably just give him probation.
Posted by: amy
Location: eau claire
on Mar 17, 2009 at 08:57 PM
yeah a person can shoot their pets if there is a good reason why, just do it in the humain way. not infront of your kids and while you are drunk. and don't have one of your kids stay home from school to clean up the mess from shoothing their pets in your house. where is anything that this "nice man" did right? none of it. he lost it and he's evil for putting those kids through what he did. he not only killed his pets he hurt and abused his right as a father and a man. i don't think their hard enough on him for this.
Posted by: trisha
Location: eau claire
on Mar 17, 2009 at 05:22 PM
no pets or anyone that can not defend themselves "have it coming!!" there are a lot of sick people in this world! what will be next?
Posted by: Anonymous
on Mar 17, 2009 at 05:16 PM
This is crazy. THe kids wil not be in therapy and all that bull. Kids hunt and kill animals. Farmers have to put down livestock at times and the kids do just fine. I am sick of all the big city people. How do they think the meat on there table got there?? Someone killed it. BIG DEAL
Posted by: Ellen
Location: Eau Claire
on Mar 17, 2009 at 04:45 PM
Are you serious? He SHOT 6 living things and in front of his children! He was also intoxicated which was very irresponsible for him to drink that much when he was with his kids. This is a horrible story and I turly hope that he gets put away for the longest possible time that he can be; and as for his girlfriend that is just sick to make a child clean up the family pet. These people disgust me. And Bob you need to get some help. You should have tried to stop him not just sit there and let it happen! What is wrong with people?
Posted by: Hans
Location: HWY 94
on Mar 17, 2009 at 04:25 PM
Pets don't have rights? People have to endure others pets making messes in their yards, strewing their garbage around on garbage day, and on and on. This is not to mention the attacks by dogs running loose. Call the cops on any one of those things, and they say there is nothing they can do. Talk to the owner, about as useful as talking to a tree. The owner will say leave my "kids" alone, you cruel hearted animal hater.
Posted by: jamie
Location: rusk
on Mar 17, 2009 at 04:20 PM
that's alot of beer!
Posted by: Sarah
Location: Neillsville
on Mar 17, 2009 at 04:13 PM
How can anyone defend a person who kills all those animals in front of his children and then makes them clean it up? You cannot say he had a heart of gold and loved the children. Love does not do the things that he did.
Posted by: Amy
Location: Eau Claire
on Mar 17, 2009 at 04:08 PM
A guy can shoot his pets, but not the way that he did. Why would you do it in the house in front of kids anyway? What does that teach team. Absolutely nothing. I feel bad for those kids for what they had to go through.
Posted by: cletus
Location: cadott
on Mar 17, 2009 at 03:46 PM
HIS ANIMALS HIS HOUSE HIS KIDS HIS LIFE!!
Posted by: Michelle
Location: Northern WI
on Mar 17, 2009 at 03:35 PM
Poor kids. Bottom line.
Posted by: Bob
Location: Tomah
on Mar 17, 2009 at 03:04 PM
So what's the big deal here, can't a guy shoot his pets. I talk to Ray that night, and the pets had it coming!
Posted by: Karen
Location: Eau Claire
on Mar 17, 2009 at 02:55 PM
Did anyone else notice most of the people defending this idiot are also the ones who CAN'T SPELL? Go back to school people!
Posted by: Jaudona
Location: Melbourne Fl
on Feb 27, 2009 at 08:05 PM
This couple should roy in jail.All of you "anomonous' people:Print your name if you really believe your comments !!
Posted by: anonymous
Location: unavailable
on Feb 10, 2009 at 09:48 AM
until any of you know the full story keep your mouths shut obviously social services didnt seem to have a problem since they were out there on different occasions. i think the issue is with you people is seeing the home on the news which to me was blown out of proportion yea it may not be the niced place to live but it doent mean there wasnt love. and you cant tell me there isnt anyone out there who hasnt shot a stray animal or a pet because your to cheap to pay to have the vet or humane society to take care of it so before you comment anymore stop and think and if there is anyone that you know out there that has killed a pet you better watch out because they might be a serial killer. Come on, think about it! sounds stupid dont it?
Posted by: anonymous
Location: unavailable
on Feb 7, 2009 at 10:00 PM
I've known this man for years this is not the man i know, everybody makes mistakes. Yeah, this was a huge mistake. His house may not have been the nicest or cleanest, but he was a hard working, big hearted guy. He would give you the shirt off his back, and he really loved those kids. If he was rich and famous, would we all be making these horrible comments. You people that do not know him should not be so quick to open your flaps. Something went wrong, and he obviously needs some help. But just because he killed a few animals dosen't mean he's gonna become a serial killer. I hope he get the help he needs. I don't believe we should waste our taxes money on someone I truly belive would benifit from help. All you people can talk about is the negative. How about some positive. Yes, he was in the wrong, but to not be allowed to see his kids again, come on, have we heard of supervised visitation? If it was one of you morons you wouldn't be so quick to chirp. Come on have a heart.
Posted by: Peg Ryan
Location: Lancaster
on Feb 7, 2009 at 06:42 PM
AS both a social worker and pet owner all I can say is that I am HORRIFIED !! I can only imagine the horror these animals witnessed as they attempted to flee for their lives. If this man does not face the consequences of his behavior I can only do what will hit the beaucrats in their most cherished area..their pocket books. I will advocate that no one from this part of the State visits or spends a dime in the Chippewa area. IN DISGUST!!! Peg Ryan
Posted by: Susan MAINE
Location: Maine
on Feb 6, 2009 at 07:54 AM
Lets see leave the child alone 11yrs. Makes a child catch an animal for him to kill.GIRLFRIEND HAD CHILD CLEAN-UP DEAD PET KILLS 6 PETS IN FRONT OF CHILDREN. WILL THIS CASE BE JUST ANOTHER SLAP ON THE WRIST. How many years of help will these children need? Been out to the Knez home in the past for child welfare calls but never found anything this serious.
Posted by: Richard
on Feb 5, 2009 at 09:10 PM
Denise your a dork for even thinking this has something ta do with Columbine, as far as being a Homeland security issue what the heck u thinking about he shot some unwanted pets that people droped off at HIS home he did NOT SHOOT ANY KIDS all of u are blowing this way the hell out of proportion thats redicules ya stupid monkey.
Posted by: Denise
Location: Utah
on Feb 5, 2009 at 02:14 PM
Domestic violence/animal abuse are the #1 threat weakening the fabric of our society, in my opinion. This should be a Homeland Security issue. Does Columbine ring any bells? This the well from which violent criminals spring from.
Posted by: Maria
Location: New York
on Feb 5, 2009 at 07:12 AM
People have the duty to treat animals with respect, dignity and kindess. What this scumbag did to these animals in front of the children is disgusting. The children will have all sorts of agencies to take care of them. Who does the animals have.
Posted by: Liz
Location: Washington, D.C.
on Feb 5, 2009 at 06:21 AM
Why do we waste money on these imbeciles? Do you really think they will 'get smarter'?
Posted by: Roxanne
Location: Vermont
on Feb 5, 2009 at 06:04 AM
Children need to be removed immediately. These arenot parents. To do that to kids is unthinkable! Thay are scarred for life. And what they did to the animals...these are people that need to be removed from society for the safety of all. It's difficult to write anything sensible, I am so enraged. All I can say, is that the legal system better do its job for those kids and the pets. They better do their job.
Posted by: Angela
Location: Wisconsin
on Feb 4, 2009 at 09:15 PM
This news made me SO sick to my stomach. I hope he gets the maximum.
Posted by: diane
Location: pa
on Feb 4, 2009 at 07:56 PM
why hasn't child welfare done something? they couldn't see what these kids were living? right! and the animals. they had no chance. poor things. i really like animals more than some people. No one can get as drunk as he apparently was and probably frequently is, and not be mean. the ball was dropped on this family many times i bet.
Posted by: DIANA WAGNER
Location: ALTOONA PA
on Feb 4, 2009 at 06:03 PM
SOMETHING MUST BE DONE TO BRING THIS MAN TO JUSTICE. FURTHERMORE, IT SEEMS THAT WISCONSIN HAS SOME OF THE WEAKEST LAWS TO PROTECT ANIMALS IN THE UNITED STATES. I WOULD HOPE THAT ALL YOU GOOD PEOPLE IN WISCONSIN WILL BAND TOGETHER AND MANDATE YOUR GOVERNMENT TO DO A BETTER JOB OF PROTECTING ANIMALS BY PASSING NEW LAWS TO HELP THEM. AS FAR AS THIS ROTTEN MAN WHO SHOT THESE ANIMALS. HE NEEDS TO GO TO JAIL!!! HE SHOULD NOT HAVE ANIMALS..LET ALONE CHILDREN.
Posted by: Sheila
Location: Greenville SC
on Feb 4, 2009 at 05:47 PM
OH MY GOD! This is one of the most horrible things I have ever heard, and my question is what in the world were they doing with that many kids and pets all living together in a mobile home? They didn't need pets, and sure as the world didn't need kids if they are that kind of people anyway. What a pathetic excuse for a human being; I hope these children are taken away and never returned to these ignorant people. I hesitate to call them animals . . . animals don't kill for sport and entertainment. Just sickening.
Posted by: Shilo
Location: Chippewa Falls
on Feb 4, 2009 at 04:41 PM
Jim, YES! YES! YES! it is too animal crulty!!!As well as child abuse! He got these animals in the house and cornerd the animals! He steped on a cats head to hold him down! Then he shot it!! You don't call this abuse? Come on!! Get A Grip!!!!
Posted by: cfresident
Location: chippewa falls
on Feb 4, 2009 at 03:28 PM
No, animals do not have the same rights as humans, but at the same time, humans have the responsibility to treat animals (and children!) ethically, especially when animals are so important to our survival. We rely on them not only for food, but also for emotional and psychological well-being. This man has shirked that responsibility in so many ways--that is what's so appalling. When I read about people who kill children, I have to think they are mentally disturbed and that there's not much more to say. This man, although clearly not well-socialized, did these things not because of mental defect but to express his power and control over the children and animals.
Posted by: Carrie
Location: Ridgeland
on Feb 4, 2009 at 12:48 PM
who knows who the kids belong to, He divorced the girlfriends sister 8 years ago, then I guess they became an item. Those poor children, I wish I had room at my house to give them as much of a normal childhood that they have left. Very Sad! And I agree with michael, everyone right down to the bar tender who kept serving them drinks should be responsiable!
Posted by: Anonymous
on Feb 4, 2009 at 10:55 AM
the reason for that jim is because you are a LOSER
Posted by: Jim
Location: Neillsville
on Feb 4, 2009 at 10:38 AM
To Michael & Me, thanks, finally somebody got it. I went back through the news on this site and found this. 1 year old killed by father (3posts), 2 Year old Killed by mother (2posts), 11 year old tortured by stranger (3posts). Where were all of you posting your outrage then? Lots of posts over dead ducks, deer, cats, and dogs.... NONE for the kids........ You that have beaten up on me need to get your heads on right..
Posted by: robert
Location: madison
on Feb 4, 2009 at 10:06 AM
finally some common sense in all of these blogs, who would give the advise to someone drunk in a bar that you can shoot your pets? michael your right on me-EC too.
Posted by: Me
Location: Eau Claire
on Feb 4, 2009 at 08:44 AM
I think everyone is beating up on Jim unecessarily. I think his point is that everyone is focusing so much on the killing of the animals that they seem to be missing the REAL seriousness of the crime, which is doing so in front of his children! That is the real crime here. Shooting an animal when it is injured etc is a totally different thing than what this man did to those animals but even so the biggest harm he did was emotionally harming his children. One other point...maybe those animals are better off in puppy/kitty heaven...given the environment who knows what kind of treatment/care those animals were getting. For all we know maybe shooting them was the nicest thing that this man ever did to his pets!
Posted by: Michael
Location: Boyd
on Feb 4, 2009 at 07:01 AM
How is it when a guy states his opinion about the situation that no one will post it. Just because that the county is also liable for this incident. They have been out to the property and done nothing. I will be heard!! You can not keep my mouth shut. Their are alot of people and agencies to blame here, from the social worker, to the bar tender who continued to serve these people more drinks after clearly seeing that they needed no more. I think we are all to blame here. The system needs to make this right. Those kids deserve to be happy and try to have this trama erased from their young growing minds if that is possible. Wake up justice system, I would love to hear the excuse you have for dropping the ball on this situation.
Posted by: Lynn
Location: Cadott
on Feb 3, 2009 at 10:26 PM
If they think this guy is a threat to the children, then why did they let him out on a 1000.00 bond? Is the girlfriend the mother of these children? If not, then I think some other family members should want more for these children because she is just as much a loser as he is. He could have killed one of these children in his rant.
Posted by: me
Location: eau claire
on Feb 3, 2009 at 10:06 PM
i just want to say to Jim you have a problem. I have a dog and she is like family. she is like another child. i have 2 kids and they would be devistated if anything happened to her. I just lost a family dog who was almost 15 and i cried my heart out for days. i still think about her everday and it has been 7 months. Animals deserve right just like people do. they are living breathing things that feel pain and emotion. if i even raise my voice at my dog her ears go down. she is not stupid she knows when i am mad and she doesn't like it. i have never raised a hand to my dog and never would and this guy cornered his animals and killed them execution style. that is sick. and you are sick for saying what you said. this guy needs to go to prison for the max time. he endagered his children and killed a living being. that is wrong no matter what.
Posted by: T
Location: Wisconsin
on Feb 3, 2009 at 07:45 PM
Perhaps some may think animals do not hold the same rights as humans. However, my issue is that this man drank over a case of beer & unloaded his weapon inside his home with children after consuming that much alcohol. Doesn't anyone see a problem with that? I see there are some CCAP entries for both and their home does not look nice but you can't pass judgement on those items alone. It was the fact that he was inebriated and took a loaded weapon inside his home with children and killed their pets in front of them. That is truly the scary part. I can understand putting an animal out of its misery - in a respectful way - not drunk in your home and in front of the kids. Take it out to the back 40.... or pay the measly fee and have it euthanized. I pray for those kids.
Posted by: CS
on Feb 3, 2009 at 07:36 PM
Wow! Just when you think you've heard it all. Boy if this isn't a classic abusive, system sucking extended family story I don't know what is! Not many kids can rise above what they know, lets hope some of them have been saved before it's too late! Shame on those two adults for continuing the cycle and terrorizing inocent growing minds. They are both to blame for the whole situation, there are no excuses and I hope they get the max penalty!
Posted by: uknown
Location: eau claire
on Feb 3, 2009 at 07:17 PM
this is horrible, absolutaley horrible. i can't believe someone would seriously do this, both of the parents have something extremely wrong with them. Too bad animals cant fight back or talk, they should be in jail for the rest of their lives, too bad wisconsin doesn't have the death penalty, this is soo sad.
Posted by: Nancy
Location: EC
on Feb 3, 2009 at 06:32 PM
How heart breaking. The man has no heart, guilt or feelings. I think people like him deserve the death penalty.
Posted by: Anonymous
on Feb 3, 2009 at 06:05 PM
Idont think anybody has the right to say anything know one really knows what happend . I think if you have some thing to say you should look in your front door frist.
Posted by: reed
Location: dubuque, iowa
on Feb 3, 2009 at 05:40 PM
I hope he gets what he deserves and is never among society again. ...she should be put away too....sick.
Posted by: Tim
on Feb 3, 2009 at 05:10 PM
There is something seriously wrong with people who don't think animals have rights. Thanks for diluting the gene pool Jim. We can only hope you don't have kids or pets.
Posted by: Shilo
Location: Chippewa Falls
on Feb 3, 2009 at 05:01 PM
In the first place, I was shocked to hear that the Judge only set a 1.ooo dollar bond to get get this loser out of Jail, and sure enough, he was out the very next Day! What a slap on the wrist! It should have been more like 10.ooo dollars bond! and the same for the Mother! In my eyes, she's no better then he is. I mean, "come on" Make you're little girl clean up all the dead animals while you go buy more beer! Whats wrong with this picture??? I Hope the Judge wises up and gives them both some heafty prison time!
Posted by: Lisa
Location: Eau Claire
on Feb 3, 2009 at 04:59 PM
They should NEVER get those children back
Posted by: Anonymous
Location: eau claire
on Feb 3, 2009 at 04:56 PM
Jim maybe where your from this is normal activity geting drunk and shooting your pets in front of your kids, but for the rest of us this is wrong.
Posted by: Cory
Location: Eau Claire
on Feb 3, 2009 at 04:24 PM
No Jim, I believe you are missing the point. Weather you agree with it or not, there are laws on the books about this type of activity. What your mom did how many years ago is irrelevant in this case. This man was drunk, had a loaded firearm, and killed 6 family PETS, not livestock for food, not wild game, but PETS, while his children watched! These children watched as some drunken idiot killed their pets! Obviously you don't understand the difference between killing an animal to eat, and killing an animal because you are drunk and want to feel powerful, which is the only thing I can use to describe what he did. The way it is discribed how he killed them makes we wonder how safe another person would be with this man free on bond. So Jim, maybe you need to start getting the point of why people are outraged, instead of looking for excuses for this maniac!
Posted by: Laura
Location: Bruce
on Feb 3, 2009 at 04:21 PM
Perhaps the POINT in this is the fact that he did this in front of the kids, and perhaps the KIDS felt a bit differently than YOU do about their pets Jim!
Posted by: jeanne
Location: EAU GALLE
on Feb 3, 2009 at 04:11 PM
MOST DISGUSTING THING I HAVE EVER HEARD,, AND JIM YOUR A MORON COMPARING THIS TO DEER HUNTING,,,,
Posted by: Jim
Location: Neillsville
on Feb 3, 2009 at 03:36 PM
I'm sorry but there is something seriously wrong with individuals that think animals deserve the same rights as humans. If they can't be guilty of murder then neither can their death be considered murder. Most of you are missing the POINT! Everyone is focusing on the death of some dumb animals and the health and welfare of the children is a secondary issue. NO animal on this planet rates a higher value than the children. Those of you that think animals are equal to humans have a severe mental disfunction!!
Posted by: Msred
Location: EauClaire
on Feb 3, 2009 at 02:50 PM
We now know Jim and Frank are morons that need to be watch. We have in them more piece of trash like these two scumbags. She needed to be charged and hope lousy Judge Cameron doesn't hear this case.
Posted by: Julie
Location: Eagan MN
on Feb 3, 2009 at 02:40 PM
This guy is a waste. This is a Jeffery Dahmer waiting to happen.
Posted by: Msred
Location: Chippewa Falls
on Feb 3, 2009 at 02:36 PM
People need to get rid of the lousy judge Camron who lets these monsters out on a $1,000 bond. This judge is worthless that's why these slimbags think they can get away with this garbage.
Posted by: Deb
Location: Whitehall
on Feb 3, 2009 at 01:07 PM
I would never consider shooting one of my animals, and I find the manner in which it was done more horrifying than the fact that it was. The most horrifying fact to me in all this mess, is that they had an 11 year old child clean up after the rampage so "mom" could go buy more beer. I hope they both get the maximum sentences. I hope the kids end up in a better place so that the circle of cruelty ends. I am not a professional, but I can't see how all of those children will escape emotional and mental scarring.
Posted by: Anonymous
on Feb 3, 2009 at 12:52 PM
Jim - clearly you are NOT a "normal" human being if being a witness to your dog's shooting death left you with absolutely NO trauma whatsoever. I am sure there is more to you than meets the eye. I would like to know what happened to that poor black and white dog that is in the below picture?! Seriously, these people have major issues and should not be caring for children, pets, or even PLANTS! My god - LOCK THEM UP!
Posted by: katt
Location: sparta
on Feb 3, 2009 at 12:17 PM
To Jim: It is abuse to round up animals and shoot them, inside a home and have your children witness it and clean it up. This mother should be charged. It is different to kill (or euthanize) a sick or dangerous animal.
Posted by: kelly
Location: ec
on Feb 3, 2009 at 12:02 PM
what about cruelty to animals, those poor creatures and those poor kids. those children are going to need major counseling. there should be strickter penalties for murdering animals. no misdemeaners. this is a felony act. murder of a pet granted is the severity of a human but should be a felony of some sort. this entire situation is so wrong in so many ways. people like that shouldnt be allowed near pets or animals or the general public. alcohol is no excuse
Posted by: Julia
Location: Eau Claire
on Feb 3, 2009 at 11:48 AM
Where does one begin??? I'm sure Chippewa Co will give them the "slap on the wrist" they give everyone else.
Posted by: Natalie
Location: Black River Falls
on Feb 3, 2009 at 11:35 AM
Interesting that animal abuse merits a full court press, but prior reports of child abuse or neglect do not. If this drunk man and his drunk woman alongside him, could execute the animals in front of children in the home, what else is going on in that home? Alcoholism and child endangerment are obvious in this one incident...how many others are there? The parents and local authorities share in the blame for this escalation of terror and abuse in a trailer home with SIX children. But poverty does not equal abuse or alcoholism or dysfunction. Plenty of poor people raise their children without drinking 29 beers in a sitting and grabbing a firearm to use within a home.
Posted by: Chris
Location: Eau Claire
on Feb 3, 2009 at 11:35 AM
First of all why did Social Services not see that that environment was not fit for 6 kids and 6 pets? The justice system really needs to step up and keep this man in prison where he belongs. He does not deserve to walk freely. The kids will need serious counseling, but maybe this tragic event will ultimately help the children find a better home with loving caring parents who will provide a happy life for them. We really need to ban together and appeal the WI lawmakers for stricter animal rights and stiffer penalties for harming defenseless animals. I will be organizing a petition to WI lawmakers on Care2.com.
Posted by: Gail
Location: Chetek
on Feb 3, 2009 at 11:06 AM
I do not feel this is a "nice" man as stated by his girlfriend!! Why did they have so many pets anyway. It's difficult to feed and care for one pet alone. He should be given the maximum sentence possible. These children will never forget the trauma of this incident. I do feel that his girlfriend should also be charged accordingly. Drinking seems to be more important than their children or anything else!!! This is an injustice to all of us as taxpayers as well if they indeed were on county welfare.
Posted by: Matt
on Feb 3, 2009 at 10:55 AM
GOOD!She deserves to be charged too. She's no better for allowing this/ & raising kids in that environment? Disgusting!
Posted by: upset
Location: Eau Claire
on Feb 3, 2009 at 10:19 AM
Not only did he shoot them in front of his children, but he did it INSIDE their mobile home. He is lucky that one of the shots didn't hit one of his children. If nothing else, he should be found guilty of that.
Posted by: Jill
Location: Bruce
on Feb 3, 2009 at 10:15 AM
This guy is sick. So anyone who things big deal no trauma. FACTS.. Violence Connection. If you do this to an animal you will do it to not only kids but people. All serial killers started with animals. It is called the violence connection. This is not just about THE KIDS. It is about Life in the Mid West Wis area. Backwards. Violence like this is unacceptable. Why have the pets, if you don't want them. THIS PERSON IS SERIOUSLY SICK. Anyone who says so what he did not torture the animals he shot them. Whew. Look in the mirror now and go slap yourself and say wake up!! This area is so backwards. Wisconsin has the least animal protection laws. I never saw such abuse of animals, kids, and women as I have in any state. I lived in or Country as I have here in Northern Wisconsin. Time's have changed and for the worst here. Thank you Channel 13 for reporting this. Please read the violence connection... Kids should be taken away, and he should be doing time in the Big House.
Posted by: Carol
Location: Chippewa Falls
on Feb 2, 2009 at 05:34 PM
This is to Jim from Neilsville, Time's have changed! Have a heart and stop acting like a idiot!!!! Did you ever stop to think that maybe those kids really loved their pets? and to have "not one" but six being killed in front of them? I am a big animal lover, and I'm so angry at this jerk!!!
Posted by: Jim
Location: Neillsville
on Feb 2, 2009 at 10:40 AM
Sam, shooting an animal and torturing one are two different things. As for the trama..... My mother shot my dog for eating chickens when I was 8, That was just the way it is, I have suffered no trama. Those of you that think killing animals is cruelty need to stop shopping in the meat department of the supermarket.
Posted by: MsRed
Location: EauClaire
on Feb 1, 2009 at 06:45 PM
What judge let this dirtbag on with that bail??? Elections are coming up for the new judges, this judge was a loser letting a drunk slob out like that. Please don't return these poor children.
Posted by: Carol
Location: Chippewa falls
on Feb 1, 2009 at 05:30 PM
What that guy did to his kids is unthinkable! That's how cearal killers start out! He should be put in prison before he harms another living thing!
Posted by: Kat
Location: Sparta
on Feb 1, 2009 at 02:46 PM
I say give the guy the same punishment. And what is wrong with this woman that says that he is a good guy, and that she was out with him and also had around 12 beer? And lets have this checked about her dog that was also killed by another dog. What a screwed up family!
Posted by: Tricia
Location: Menomonie
on Feb 1, 2009 at 11:25 AM
Life is about choices. No matter how life is, everyone has the choice to do what is right or what is wrong. This man and his girlfriend chose to do worng by their children and their pets. Choosing to go out to the bar after they had already been drinking showed poor judgement and the inability to make good choices on behalf of his children and the pets he was responsible for. Both of these individuals should not be allowed to have their children or any other animals. They obviously are incapable of making choices that puts the children and animals in front of their own want and needs. Let them both spend some time in jail where they will have plenty of time to think about their choices and how they effect other's who are dependent on them. Again I ask...."what happened to the other pets on his property?"
Posted by: larry
Location: boyd
on Jan 31, 2009 at 11:25 PM
This is the same couple that was on Maury Povich some time ago. They only had 3 kids then. The mother was sleeping with Ray Jr. and his brother. They went on the show to find out which brother was the father of the kids. Sick, sick, sick family.
Posted by: Sheryl
Location: Altoona
on Jan 31, 2009 at 10:58 PM
So what does this couple do for a living, that they can sit around drinking 12 beers, and then go to a bar? Why were they not at home with the kids? And to kill four cats and two dogs. If there were too many animals, why didn't he and his girlfriend get up off their rear ends and take them to the humane society? Or would that be too much work? In my opinion, he should be charged with child abuse, animal abuse and whatever else they can think of to charge him with. If this person?, was not working, I would like to know how he made his money. Do the taxpayers pay for his beer, and guns? Maybe if he would have had a job, he wouldn't have been around to commit these murders and abuse children. I feel so sad for the kids, I hope they get all attention they need and will need.
Posted by: Carol
Location: Chippewa Falls
on Jan 31, 2009 at 08:49 PM
Yes! This guy really is a peice of work! I'm a huge Animal lover, how could he do this in front of his small children? Those kids are going to have to live with this for the rest of their lives, And those poor animals, My heart just hurts! I hope that the Judge throw's him in jail for a very long time!
Posted by: Sam
Location: Blue Mounds
on Jan 31, 2009 at 08:58 AM
Jim and Frank. Are you kidding me? Not animal cruelty? Not worth using tax dollars to stop it? I suppose Michael Vick is your hero for what he did to his animals. The two of you need to go in for some serious counseling to sensitize yourselves to the real world and learn that yes, this is animal cruelty.
Posted by: rebecca
Location: wisconsin
on Jan 31, 2009 at 08:00 AM
I agree that he must be charged with child abuse, not animal cruelty. The animals weren't the ones who will suffer from trauma for the rest of their lives. The children will. I can't begin to imagine how much these children are going to suffer with this memory in their heads. It truly is unthinkable child abuse. I hope he gets punished fully for what he did to those children!
Posted by: s-b
on Jan 31, 2009 at 02:11 AM
Let's pray for the kids. These children are really good kids. My kids go to school with them and though they don't have much, they are great kids. Yes, the parents have issues, but he as well grew up at this place and in the same conditions. Not sure what the answers are here. Let's pray the kids don't make the same wrong decisions in life and continue down the same path.
Posted by: Anonymous
Location: Eau Claire
on Jan 31, 2009 at 01:00 AM
To Chris from ladysmith, you are a complete moron to compare wolf hunting being allowed again in this tradgity. what does hunting have to do with this. you clearly have an IQ of Zero
Posted by: Chris
on Jan 30, 2009 at 09:29 PM
Absolutely outragious! Now the social service system will be spending tons of money to try to help these kids. They deserve to have a loving happy family. My heart goes out to the kids.
Posted by: anonymous
Location: wisconsin
on Jan 30, 2009 at 09:26 PM
The children should never have been left with the parents in the first place. If they had been investigated in the past, how could they not have "found anything this serious?" Children need more protection and Social Services need to be able to take children out of dangerous environments before it is too late.
Posted by: Lenny
on Jan 30, 2009 at 09:16 PM
This case is no different than what Michael Vick did. This state needs to make a statement and make it LOUD and CLEAR-- UNTOLERABLE
Posted by: None
on Jan 30, 2009 at 08:42 PM
This is truely sad. For each and every one of you "let he who lives without sin cast the first stone" & I cant imagine that all of you are without sin. In your prayers should not only be the children, but the entire family. Pray that Chrystal and Eddie will overcome their own deamons. Pray for the family. What do you think social services is going to do?....Do we have any volunteers in the commenting segment? Every one is sitting in their homes and commenting on this site you say this is so SAD...If it so sad then do something about it. Not just by making your thyes every Sunday, but get out there and REALLY do something for kids like this...Make a difference. That is how we maintain hope for our future generations & give hope to those impoverished.
Posted by: Jim
Location: Neillsville
on Jan 30, 2009 at 08:33 PM
OK, thanks for the beating. I believe that this individual should have been charged with child abuse, not animal cruelty. JB from Madison, the justice department doesnt't need to waste any more of our taxes tracking dead amimals. They need to spend the money housing criminals in cold, lonely, inhospitable prisons.
Posted by: Ken
Location: Gilman
on Jan 30, 2009 at 08:00 PM
Has anyone here ever read the book, Wisconsin Death Trip? The more and more I see these types of incidents taking place, the more I tend to think that these general acts of violence popping up all over are simply examples of history repeating itself.
Posted by: Kathi
Location: Chippewa Falls
on Jan 30, 2009 at 07:23 PM
I certainly hope Chippewa County will hold him accountable and send him to prison. My family witnessed horrific animal abuse about 10yrs ago in Chippewa County and "he" was never prosecuted. Kept coming back and every time got worse. When I heard this it made me physically sick and all the everything flashed back. Thought I was past it and i'm an adult, and what my family witnessed wasn't this extreme. These children must not go back ! I hope all the attention this is getting that these 2 will get everything they have coming. There are many good homes for these children to go, so Social Services better put them in someone elses care and terminate the parental rights !
Posted by: JB
Location: Madison
on Jan 30, 2009 at 06:30 PM
Urge the Department of Justice to track animal cruelty. The Animal Cruelty Statistics Act of 2008 (H.R. 6597) was introduced last year by House Judiciary Committee Chairman, John Conyers (D-MI) with Rep. Elton Gallegly (R-CA) and requires the collection of data on all animal cruelty crimes. This bill was also co-sponsored by Tammy Baldwin. Research clearly demonstrates that there is a close association between animal abuse and family violence, as well as other crimes. Tracking animal abuse will boost efforts to interrupt the violence cycle, and more effectively protect animals, children, and families. This bill didn't pass last year, but you can call your representative and ask that the bill be re-introduced. It just takes a few moments to make the call. Go here to find your representatives phone number: https://community.hsus.org/humane/leg-lookup/search.html
Posted by: Chris
Location: Ladysmith
on Jan 30, 2009 at 06:29 PM
First the two snowmobile slaughters, then that guy in Menomonie starving all his animals, then wolf hunting allowed again, and now this week that big old bear shot while he was hibernating (wow, what a sportsman), and now this animal slaughter in front of children. What the hell is going on in this state? Are the judges even paying attention? Ahhh-Wisconsin... . where we kill for the fun of it!
Posted by: Lyn
Location: Nekoosa,WI
on Jan 30, 2009 at 06:23 PM
There is too much cruelty in the world. All violence begins with cruelty to animals & then escalates. It's all about power. Then children, elderly & women get the abuse. There are some men that are victims of abuse in some cases.
Posted by: tony
on Jan 30, 2009 at 05:42 PM
Put him jail and throw away the key away.
Posted by: Anonymous
on Jan 30, 2009 at 05:20 PM
this guy needs help
Posted by: Anonymous
on Jan 30, 2009 at 04:20 PM
What about the kids! The children are the ones to suffer.
Posted by: Julie
Location: Menomonie
on Jan 30, 2009 at 03:50 PM
Did anybody notice that it says they drank 12 beers each before they went to the bar? He shot the pets in the house (if you want to call it that), and they left an 11 year old home alone to "clean up" the mess!! Come on, there is only one place these to morons belong and that is Hell!! Hopefully these kids will get the help the need, and a family that will love and care for them like they should be.
Posted by: mx
Location: eau claire
on Jan 30, 2009 at 03:43 PM
This goes to Frank from St. Croix, Frank you obviously should be in jail right along with this sick individual if you don't see that this is a horrible case of animal abuse. Animals are not "property" they are a part of my family. They give love unconditionally, they know when your sad, they are there everyday to greet me when I get home. So for you to say that they are property makes me wonder just how sick you are and I hope you have no children for you to pass this kind of thinking on to. It is scary to think that you are out in society. I just pray that I don't read about you on this web page. You should seek help
Posted by: Anonymous
Location: ec
on Jan 30, 2009 at 03:15 PM
Maybe instead of spending his money on beer, he could spend some of it fixing up his house. How sad that those kids had to live in something like that. Maybe he did the kids a favor by having them removed from the home.
Posted by: Amy
Location: Madison
on Jan 30, 2009 at 02:52 PM
This is horrific, I cannot imagine what these kids went through watching their beloved pets be chased around the "home" and shot. What a horror show that will traumatize those children for the rest of their lives. And the poor girl who stayed up to clean?? There is a known correlation between animal abuse and domestic and child abuse. The girlfriend is either a complete idiot excusing this trauma to her children as a "bad day" or is a victim herself. These kids have almost certainly been abused before. I hope they never ever see their kids again.
Posted by: J
Location: Stanley
on Jan 30, 2009 at 02:46 PM
I feel so bad for this family whom i personally know! I hope to God that they are mentally alright. I am seriously shocked by this sick act of inequity!
Posted by: Lisa
Location: Minneapolis
on Jan 30, 2009 at 02:05 PM
My heart absolutely breaks for these children. I can't even begin to comprehend how disturbed you would have to be to commit such an act in front of your children! What kind of a mother sends her kids off to school as though nothing happened and then leaves her eleven year old daughter behind to clean up the remains of the animals? I pray that these children will not be given back to their depraved parents. If they are returned to their parents, there is no justice in this world. Some people truly should not procreate. This just makes me sick and extremely sad. Jim, all I have to say is that you are absolutely absurd! If you can't say something intelligent, please do the rest of us a favor and don't say anything. Your comments about the pets are utterly ridiculous not to mention that after reading about this horrific occurrence, you fail to mention the most important thing, the children. My prayers are with these children.
Posted by: Amy
Location: Iraq
on Jan 30, 2009 at 01:42 PM
What a sick, sick man and woman. And to think that his bail was only $1,000.00. Thank the lord the kids are away from those people.
Posted by: RICK
Location: Wisconsin
on Jan 30, 2009 at 01:37 PM
Does the human race serve any purpose on this planet???
Posted by: Lori
Location: Eau Claire
on Jan 30, 2009 at 01:08 PM
This is the most outragous thing I can think of. I have never been so angry. Those poor animals and the children. this man should be locked up for the rest of his life.
Posted by: Frank
Location: St. Criox
on Jan 30, 2009 at 12:54 PM
I understand all of the charges except the animal abuse. How were the animals abused? I don't see how shooting them would be considered abuse. Animals are property - the people of our society kill animals everyday for various reasons - so I don't see that as being the reason for the animal abuse charge.
Posted by: Anonymous
Location: Ludington
on Jan 30, 2009 at 12:41 PM
Eddie (Editor's note: Raymond Knez Jr. is also called Eddie) and Crystal have been getting into trouble for quite awhile. Now is the time for the law to take this and run. If only they follow through with it. Crystal has been in trouble also, look her up on the wcca sight. They should lock both of them up and not allow any of them to have children or be able to drink.
Posted by: cory
Location: Eau Claire
on Jan 30, 2009 at 12:25 PM
Wow...a gun crime and only hve the bail at $1,000? Who want's to take bets this loser runs? As stated before, this person has a long record of violence and alcohol problems, and he's got a gun? Stop slapping him on the wrist and saying "bad boy", and lock this piece of trash away!
Posted by: Sarah
Location: Eau Claire
on Jan 30, 2009 at 11:57 AM
this makes you want to cry for those children. the mother has the nerve to tell the children that he's not that bad. she is just as sick.
Posted by: debra
Location: eau claire
on Jan 30, 2009 at 11:54 AM
human services had been out to the house but "never found anything this serious." well, what did they find less serious? why weren't those children removed then?
Posted by: RA
Location: St. Criox
on Jan 30, 2009 at 11:39 AM
What a palace! Geez even my old mobile home didn't look that bad! What a shame. Those poor kids are never going to forget what he did.
Posted by: Anonymous
Location: Eau Claire
on Jan 30, 2009 at 11:02 AM
They are both pieces of work, that is why she lost custody to her children on a different occasion. I feel so bad for the children, something should have been done sooner!!
Posted by: Erin
Location: Madison
on Jan 30, 2009 at 10:02 AM
Hard to believe this guy isn't a "bad guy"... one of the things that serial killers and murderers have in common is torturing animals, showing no respect or regard for life. I love animals, but I just thank God that he didn't turn the gun on the children.
Posted by: Ken
on Jan 30, 2009 at 09:37 AM
Without even driving by I can just tell its got to be terrible. Mobile home, drunk with a record a mile long, 6 kids, live in girlfriend that says "he's not a bad guy". Have ya ever seen a mobile home that can accomodate 6 childern? Come on social services DO YOUR JOB! This is bad stuff here but I'd be willing to bet these kids/ and dogs and cats have seen and lived a lot more horror with this monster. Let us as neighbors not just turn the other cheek any longer! Has anyone taken the rest of the animals away or off the property yet? Your right, these kids aren't gonna talk- as young as they are they know they'll end up back there and he'll get even AGAIN like he has before! What can we do to help? Typing on our computers isn't enough-
Posted by: Ray
Location: Eau Claire
on Jan 30, 2009 at 09:10 AM
This Guy is an Oxygen Pirate, as is Jim from Neilsville.
Posted by: Sam
Location: Boyd
on Jan 30, 2009 at 09:07 AM
I have read a lot of these other comments - PLEASE people....take a drive on D south of Boyd, 6-8 miles and see what type of environment that these kids had to live in...it's not even fit for an animal...it's a total junk yard....maybe this will open the eyes of someone to do something about this property and get these kids out of it and onto a better way of life.....it is just SAD!!!
Posted by: Sarah
Location: Boyd
on Jan 30, 2009 at 08:40 AM
Whoever reads this should take a drive on Cty. Rd D = South of Boyd and see the environment that these kids have to live in....it is just horrible!!! The state or county NEEDS to do something!!!
Posted by: Jim
Location: Owen
on Jan 30, 2009 at 08:40 AM
I think the kids really dodged a "bullet" on this one. The man could have easily turned the gun on the kids & wife. Instead of condemning the man though, we should be thinking of ways to help this man and his family. There are alot of hurting people out in our country losing jobs and their homes. Obviously mixing alcohol with our economy makes a very combustible situation. Keep the family in your prayers.
Posted by: Anonymous
Location: Eau claire
on Jan 30, 2009 at 08:17 AM
People in stead of saying This guy is worthless which he is, look him upon wcca, this is not his first time,and it is not the first time the police have had a run in with him, or for that matter the county for the kids, but do the police or the county do anything NO< one visit to the house and see nothing wrong, no one in that house is going to say anything about him because they are afraid of him. Start blaming the police and county for not protecting the kids which should have been done along time ago. he has 2 dwi's and 2 domestics, and each time he got off with a misdemeanor and a his bail was signature bonds of 200 or more, and now hes getting another chance so lets look at the justice system.
Posted by: Laura
Location: Bruce
on Jan 30, 2009 at 07:46 AM
He didn't just kill them, he killed them in a fit of rage, in front of his kids, for NO REASON! They were the kids PETS, he was just being another drunken loser.
Posted by: Anonymous
on Jan 30, 2009 at 07:11 AM
These SICK stories continue in this world of ours! Then this guy gets out on a bail of $1000, what a joke. Monsters such as this need to be held accountable for all actions. There is no excuse to do this to those innocent animals and innocent children ... he should be thrown in jail and never let out!!! In addition to the children being removed, all other animals should also be removed.
Posted by: Tom
Location: Madison, Wisconsin
on Jan 30, 2009 at 07:03 AM
What a piece of work this guy is. What a sad story.
Posted by: irondoor33@hotmail.com
Location: Boyd area
on Jan 30, 2009 at 05:48 AM
Grew up near this residence. Drive South of Boyd about 8 miles...you can't miss the place look at the pictures above and you will see just a little bit of what those kids must go through just living there. I only hope that these kids are taken out of that home and out of that area and get a chance to live a normal life...although I bet they will need counseling for a long time. Doesn't Edson have any type of zoning to condemn that place????
Posted by: jon
Location: eau claire
on Jan 30, 2009 at 12:57 AM
I think this is an unexcusable incident. If you ever drove by this residents like I did you would wonder why the children would be left in an environment like that. hopefully they stay in protective custody and are shown that there are better people and ways to live than the way they maybe use to.
Posted by: J
Location: Milwaukee
on Jan 29, 2009 at 10:48 PM
Those kids are going to be in therapy for the rest of their lives. It's incredibly sick to murder animals "execution style", and unfathomable to murder them in front of small children.
Posted by: MsRed
on Jan 29, 2009 at 10:26 PM
They let this guy out on a $1,000 bond, shame on this judge. . Hope they don't get these poor abused children back.
Posted by: sandy
Location: eau claire
on Jan 29, 2009 at 10:19 PM
Let's hope he gets the help he needs.
Posted by: Scott
Location: West coast
on Jan 29, 2009 at 10:08 PM
At least he didn't shoot the kids! Yeah, lock him up for all our sakes. And take away his beer ! He's one troubled dude.
Posted by: Person
Location: Eau Claire
on Jan 29, 2009 at 10:06 PM
I second what Joe said. Really Jim, if you find nothing wrong with this, then you do need help. This doesn't even compare to deer hunting, but if I remember correctly, you thought it was ok for someone to hang their dog too. To make it even worse, the kids were watching, which makes it a thousand times worse than it already was.
Posted by: Shawn
Location: Cumberland
on Jan 29, 2009 at 09:35 PM
How about stop buying beer and maybe buy a desent home That place should be condemed. Social Services should have taken those kids away years ago.
Posted by: Keith
Location: Menomonie
on Jan 29, 2009 at 09:30 PM
What a complete waste of oxygen this loser is. Perhaps the money he chugged away in beer could of been used towards supporting his children-and their pets.
Posted by: Sharon
Location: Eau Claire
on Jan 29, 2009 at 09:11 PM
There is a great spot in hell waiting for this guy and I hope some judge has the sense to send him to prison and get him on the path that will lead to his spot. The mother of those children that thinks this guy was just having a bad day should have her head examined.
Posted by: C
Location: Eau Claire
on Jan 29, 2009 at 09:08 PM
Disgusting. I am glad that his picture is posted online for all to see. I am saddened for the poor children.
Posted by: MD
on Jan 29, 2009 at 08:36 PM
Jim, you belong in jail right next to him. How sick can a person be, he killed six pets IN FRONT of children. Hate to brake the bad news to ya, but it's NOT the same as deer hunting.
Posted by: Amanda
Location: Mondovi
on Jan 29, 2009 at 08:08 PM
Sick people like this need to be put away for a very long time. What might be even better is if we could do to him what he did to those animals. My heart aches thinking about what those children are going through right now. It's hard enough losing a pet because of old age or sickness but to have to see such cruelty to pets you love is wrong. And by the way Jim from Neilsville, there are places that take unwanted animals, they are called humane societies and there are many located all through the state.
Posted by: M
Location: Eau Claire
on Jan 29, 2009 at 07:42 PM
Jim, I cannot believe you're actually comparing deer hunting to killing pets in front of children.....two completely different things. It might come a surprise to you, but some people actually respect animals.
Posted by: joe
Location: durand
on Jan 29, 2009 at 07:03 PM
hey jim, from neillsvile please get HELP now!! you find nothing wrong with what he did to his children? morons should NOT be allowed to comment! wow!!!
Posted by: BK
Location: NW WI
on Jan 29, 2009 at 07:02 PM
people like this are a waste of life and completely useless to society. I am sick and tired of this.
Posted by: Tricia
Location: Menomonie
on Jan 29, 2009 at 06:54 PM
Shooting pets in front of children is abuse....plain and simple. His actions that night were inexcuseable. Anyone who shows that kind of disrespect for animals also does not have any respect for human life. He obviously did not give any consideration to the emotional and mental well-being of his children when he chose to shoot the animals in front of them. I also would like to know why child protective services chose to remove the children, and it appears that no one removed the remaining animals. The house appears abandoned and there are animals left to roam the property unattended. Anyone who is ok with this situation needs to educate themselves about the link between animal and child abuse.
Posted by: K
Location: Eau Claire
on Jan 29, 2009 at 06:50 PM
Jim, it's people like you that explain why there is so much demented cruelty in this world. Shooting 6 pets in front of children and hunting deer are two completely different things. You seem to forget that you can only hunt deer nine days of the year, because of OVERPOPULATION, not for sport. So yeah, if anyone killed a deer just when they felt like it, they would get ticketed, moron. You're a maniac just like this guy and you should both be locked up.
Posted by: grossed out
Location: ec
on Jan 29, 2009 at 04:04 PM
This guys is useless. too bad he doesnt have anything better to do. I probably pay for him to live too!
Posted by: I Agree
Location: Eau Claire
on Jan 29, 2009 at 02:56 PM
I agree with Laura, let him rot.
Posted by: Jim
Location: Neillsville
on Jan 29, 2009 at 02:44 PM
So if you let them run wild your breaking the law, if you kill them your breaking the law, What happens if you turn them loose in the police station? Laura, will you take unwanted animals? If this individual tortured these animals then he should be charged. If he just killed them, well, he is the owner. Will we be handing out tickets to deer hunters when they come in to register their deer?
Posted by: Deb
Location: Whitehall
on Jan 29, 2009 at 02:32 PM
So, do you feel like a big man now, Ray? Sorry, Ray, you're just a complete tool.
Posted by: Mike
on Jan 29, 2009 at 02:16 PM
Must make him feel pretty tough though. Poor kid will NEVER get over it. He best not get just a slap on the hand! What a Looser.
Posted by: Amy
Location: Eau Claire
on Jan 29, 2009 at 12:29 PM
I hope he recieves a long sentence for his cruelty to animals. I hope that he suffers in prison like he made the animals suffer.
Posted by: Linda
Location: Eau Claire
on Jan 29, 2009 at 12:24 PM
I cannot believe there are such sick people out there. I hope they lock him up and throw away the key. How can you do that to your children?
Posted by: Laura
Location: Bruce
on Jan 29, 2009 at 07:54 AM
What a jerk.People like him are a waste of space. |
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first the kids need to be removed from the home where is social services they show up and removed the kids after fact why wasn't the mother charged? She should be for exposing her children to this kind of life style. these kids deserve a good life! this mother isn't fit and should be charged with child endagerment a man that can kill animals in this manner is capable of doing anything
This is a very sad and disturbing situation. My thoughts are what else have these children gone through before this one!!! situation was found out about.
So if everyone is so mad at him for what he did they why isn't anyone upset with what the girlfriend got.I personally spoke to him and the kids they both say she loaded the gun and held it a few times too.I'm not saying what he did was right or wrong all I'm saying is she should have gotten the samething as he did.She should have even gotten party to a crime or something like that.But now everyone is upset with him well she took just as much part in it as he did.Atleast he had his kids the girlfriend didn't have her's at all she didn't even know where they were living.
Wow, maybe some of the people leaving comments on here, also need help. There is something wrong with you, if you say that the only thing wrong with the situation was that he shoot them in front of his kids. Also, as far as there being to many cats and dogs, if there were not so many idiots like the one that left that comment that don't spay and neuter your pets, maybe we wouldn't have so many! Come on people, its only comman sense, there was something wrong with this man!!
Just because the outside of the residence isn't cleaned up nobody knows what the inside looks like.For anyone knows it could be very clean inside the home.I know the family very good and well if other people would stop dumping their animals off at their house then there wouldn't have been any there for him to shoot.He did not make the child stay home his girlfriend did. Now people need to move on and drop it
Not enough jail time is all I have to say! I feel so bad for the poor children involved,especially the one that had to "clean" up after this losers rant! Ray needs some serious help!!!I sure hope and pray these kids don't end up with these two low lifes again! They will be scarred for life!
I don't think they should have him working with animals for his community service. The whole thing makes me sick!!!
I couldn't agree more, Sarah. I'm tired of listening to people whine about killing those animals. Truly, if you knew the conditions that those poor animals lived in...they are better off. The problem is the fact that he did this in from of the kids and the fact that the kids were living in these conditions. We shouldn't be surprised that this guy only got a slap on the wrist. Chippewa County justice at its best. Chippewa Co gives these criminals chance after chance after chance. It's disgusting. The perps have more rights than the community and victims. And don't call Chipp Co to accompany you to get property from an abusive ex...they only tell you to call 911 if you have any trouble. A person could be dead by then!!!
True enough there are too many cats and dogs already. The reason we have this pet overpopulation is because there are too many people out there that are irresponsible and no good. Every pet owner should be fixing their animal.
some people shouldn't have pets or kids and some of these comments are beyond belief sick
You've got to be kidding me.....I wouldn't want either one of them near any of my pets or kids.......hope they aren't ever allowed to be care takers of animals or children again..they say they're "sorry" now.........I don't believe it.....
Community Service preferably with animals???? ARE YOU KIDDING ME????? That Judge needs to be recalled. I hope those children never have to go back to that house of horrors, and this incompetent Judge should have had the sense to read into the sentencing conditions that these people are NEVER allowed to have another animals of any kind.
This is totally outrageous! I can not believe that they both got of with such light sentences! People wonder why tragedies like this continue. They deserve 100 times the sentence for what they did not only to the animals, but for the emotional trauma that these children will suffer as a result.
Well, now... Nearly 9 months of jail time? NOT enough! That may be enough for the crimes upon the animals, but not nearly enough for the crimes upon the children. Those poor kids will have to go back to a life with those "parents," and I use that term loosely. Our child protecion service is incompetant. This is clearly an abuse case, and if they have done something this disgusting once, they have done, or will do it again. I wish the kids luck and will keep them in my thoughts.
My heart goes out to the children and the pets.