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Posted by: Anon. on Jul 17, 2012 at 02:07 PM
Parents are the key to how well students do. Teachers can teach, but without the parents supporting their child at home it makes it more difficult for kids to succeed. I always looked at education like building a house. It needs a good foundation in order to be strong. Start with a good foundation of basic skills in the early years and expand upon those as the child goes through the upper grades.
Posted by: Scott on Jul 17, 2012 at 12:10 PM
It would also help if they quit changing how to teach/teaching methods every year. The way they teach kids basic math now is so completely awful versus how I was taught. That when my kids comes home and asks for help I can not even help him because if he does it the way I show him it will be marked wrong at school even when the answer is the same.
Posted by: Scott on Jul 17, 2012 at 12:05 PM
Won't help because kids can use calculators on test now a days so if you can punch buttons you will be fine. Teachers will have to allow use of calculators for more and more things.
Posted by: Jeff
Location: EC
on Jul 17, 2012 at 12:00 PM
To Jay: And I will keep on blathering. I used to work for a union, they did absolutely nothing for me. We use to go on strike and never make up the money we lost when we settled. I've also have installed equipment in car plants in Detroit and have seen a ton of wasted man hours and a don't work to fast attitude on the assembly lines. They also wanted three or four guys to stand there and watch me while I was doing my installations because they considered "their work" although they wouldn't have a clue about working on the equipment I was installing. Yes there was a time when unions were needed and welcome. Not anymore. There should never ever be a government union when we pay their large salaries and have nothing to say about it. Have a great day and remember to vote for obama because the union told you you have to.
Posted by: anon on Jul 17, 2012 at 11:47 AM
More money will definitely fix this problem. It's just too bad we are all about maxed out.
Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 17, 2012 at 11:46 AM
It was changed to match the Federal Government's standards. The proposed changes are part of what helped the state obtain a waiver earlier this month from requirements under the federal No Child Left Behind Law. The proposed changes are part of what helped the state obtain a waiver earlier this month from requirements under the federal No Child Left Behind Law. To get the waiver, Wisconsin had to develop its own accountability system in addition to teacher and principal evaluations, among other things.
Posted by: anon on Jul 17, 2012 at 11:44 AM
So true. I knew I would have responsibility either way, at school or home. I chose to keep mine home to avoid a lot of the bad peer pressure in public school. Guess what? It worked! They are well adjusted adults with excellent paying jobs, which means they are paying into the government and not taking out of it.
Posted by: Bob 100 on Jul 17, 2012 at 11:39 AM
I grew up in a lily-white Midwestern college town in the early 60s. No drugs (yet), very few “problem kids” (we called them hoodlums) and no one had heard of teachers’ unions. My kid is now a Jr. at Memorial. She is receiving a MUCH BETTER EDUCATION than I received. Of course, she works hard and takes hard classes. The opportunities are there if you want to accept the responsibility for your own learning.
Posted by: Anonymous on Jul 17, 2012 at 09:59 AM
We need to get back to teaching basic skills. We can't rely on technology. I'm not sure what jobs they are preparing them for in the future by using so much technology. I'm 36 and have worked in healthcare for 15 years all I get is a computer to work on and thats all I ever had. No blackberry, no Ipad, not even a laptop, just a desk top computer. Without reading, writing and math skills anyone would be lost at my job. It takes more than just knowing how to use technology.
Posted by: Hmmm on Jul 17, 2012 at 09:58 AM
Nice scores. I don't think the kids in Mississippi and Texas, who get bashed on here frequently, did that bad.
Posted by: Geez on Jul 17, 2012 at 09:48 AM
All this article states is they changed the way they assess the test scores. There is no information on how the assessment changed, why or anything. Take the GPA that has been used for years, raise the standards and everybody is going to drop. This should be no big surprise people.
Posted by: Anon on Jul 17, 2012 at 09:48 AM
Great point, Jon, I did very poorly in math, but no one at home cared at all if I did my assignments. I still think the responsibility lies with the parents -- teachers can teach, but only parents can reinforce learning.
Posted by: geez on Jul 17, 2012 at 09:42 AM
If that's the case, let's do the same scoring system to the data from 5 or 10 years ago and see where the scores land. It would be interesting and likely blow your inflamatory comment to bits.
Posted by: Jon on Jul 17, 2012 at 09:14 AM
I don't remember that at all.
In fact, I had a good education, but the biggest factor was my parents.
They pushed me to work hard, but feel free to blame it on the teachers, as they have become the De facto standard for failure of our children.
Parents are the key to how well students do. Teachers can teach, but without the parents supporting their child at home it makes it more difficult for kids to succeed. I always looked at education like building a house. It needs a good foundation in order to be strong. Start with a good foundation of basic skills in the early years and expand upon those as the child goes through the upper grades.
It would also help if they quit changing how to teach/teaching methods every year. The way they teach kids basic math now is so completely awful versus how I was taught. That when my kids comes home and asks for help I can not even help him because if he does it the way I show him it will be marked wrong at school even when the answer is the same.
Won't help because kids can use calculators on test now a days so if you can punch buttons you will be fine. Teachers will have to allow use of calculators for more and more things.
To Jay: And I will keep on blathering. I used to work for a union, they did absolutely nothing for me. We use to go on strike and never make up the money we lost when we settled. I've also have installed equipment in car plants in Detroit and have seen a ton of wasted man hours and a don't work to fast attitude on the assembly lines. They also wanted three or four guys to stand there and watch me while I was doing my installations because they considered "their work" although they wouldn't have a clue about working on the equipment I was installing. Yes there was a time when unions were needed and welcome. Not anymore. There should never ever be a government union when we pay their large salaries and have nothing to say about it. Have a great day and remember to vote for obama because the union told you you have to.
More money will definitely fix this problem. It's just too bad we are all about maxed out.
It was changed to match the Federal Government's standards. The proposed changes are part of what helped the state obtain a waiver earlier this month from requirements under the federal No Child Left Behind Law. The proposed changes are part of what helped the state obtain a waiver earlier this month from requirements under the federal No Child Left Behind Law. To get the waiver, Wisconsin had to develop its own accountability system in addition to teacher and principal evaluations, among other things.
So true. I knew I would have responsibility either way, at school or home. I chose to keep mine home to avoid a lot of the bad peer pressure in public school. Guess what? It worked! They are well adjusted adults with excellent paying jobs, which means they are paying into the government and not taking out of it.
I grew up in a lily-white Midwestern college town in the early 60s. No drugs (yet), very few “problem kids” (we called them hoodlums) and no one had heard of teachers’ unions. My kid is now a Jr. at Memorial. She is receiving a MUCH BETTER EDUCATION than I received. Of course, she works hard and takes hard classes. The opportunities are there if you want to accept the responsibility for your own learning.
We need to get back to teaching basic skills. We can't rely on technology. I'm not sure what jobs they are preparing them for in the future by using so much technology. I'm 36 and have worked in healthcare for 15 years all I get is a computer to work on and thats all I ever had. No blackberry, no Ipad, not even a laptop, just a desk top computer. Without reading, writing and math skills anyone would be lost at my job. It takes more than just knowing how to use technology.
Nice scores. I don't think the kids in Mississippi and Texas, who get bashed on here frequently, did that bad.
All this article states is they changed the way they assess the test scores. There is no information on how the assessment changed, why or anything. Take the GPA that has been used for years, raise the standards and everybody is going to drop. This should be no big surprise people.
Great point, Jon, I did very poorly in math, but no one at home cared at all if I did my assignments. I still think the responsibility lies with the parents -- teachers can teach, but only parents can reinforce learning.
If that's the case, let's do the same scoring system to the data from 5 or 10 years ago and see where the scores land. It would be interesting and likely blow your inflamatory comment to bits.
I don't remember that at all. In fact, I had a good education, but the biggest factor was my parents. They pushed me to work hard, but feel free to blame it on the teachers, as they have become the De facto standard for failure of our children.
The word is responsible Jeff. Responsible.