Wis. concealed-carry fans turn to hunting classes

GREEN BAY, Wis. (AP) -- State wildlife officials are concerned that people who want concealed-weapon permits are satisfying the training requirement by taking hunter-education classes.

The Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources says the hunting classes weren't intended to cover concealed-carry issues.

The concealed-carry law takes effect Nov. 1. Under the law, residents who can prove they've completed training can apply for a permit to carry a concealed handgun.

The state hasn't released specific requirements for firearm training, but the law says a DNR-established class on hunter education would qualify.

DNR spokesman Edward Culhane has doubts. He says hunter-education classes aren't an appropriate substitute for concealed-carry training. He says there's a difference between hunter safety and self-defense, and also between firing rifles or shotguns and firing handguns.

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  • by meno-man on Sep 13, 2011 at 08:33 AM
    The DNR dudes should do their job taking care of Wisconsins natural resources, not trying to influence legistlation. Go back to work! A DD-214 also satisfies the requirements. I do agree that any and all LEGAL aspects and resposibilities of CC should be addressed and included and made known into the CC permit process.
  • by IdahoMan Location: N. Idaho on Sep 12, 2011 at 09:47 PM
    DAVID: "There are NO training requirements to open carry." You are right David, and CC should be treated the same way. Having the government set requirements you must undergo prior to exercising your right is unconstitutional. CC permits are gun-owner "Jim Crow" laws.
  • by Anonymous on Sep 12, 2011 at 09:05 PM
    walker dont care just run a law through without actualy defining the law it will create jobs for his rich lawyer buddies to waste tax money fighting in the courts trying to defend people over true interpritation of the law
  • by Rick Location: W on Sep 12, 2011 at 06:49 PM
    The Wisconsin Department of Justice is working to implement 2011 Act 35, the concealed carry law signed by Governor Walker on July 8. The law goes into effect on November 1, 2011. The rule making process is still working on the law as it still evolving please check back on http://www.doj.state.wi.us/dles/cib/ConcealedCarry/ConcealedCarry.asp to keep up to changes as they are published.
  • by Scott Location: East on Sep 12, 2011 at 12:38 PM
    Doesn't matter what DNR spokesman Edward Culhane says...the law is the law plain and simple. The statute says Hunter Safety suffices.
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      by meno-man on Sep 13, 2011 at 08:40 AM in reply to Scott
      There are too many Wis DNR employees and way too many spokes-persons...I would prefer to use South Dakota's DNR as a template for Wisc reform...they have a nice system, plus they are courteous and helpful and don't go the extra mile to write citations.
  • by lucky Location: ec on Sep 12, 2011 at 12:08 PM
    Most people that know how to use a gun don't know squat about the legal issues in using deadly force.
  • by pete Location: anon on Sep 12, 2011 at 11:44 AM
    everone should have to take a class. I am all for concealed carry. I do believe every fair minded gun owner will not see a problem taking a class.
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      by Gary on Sep 12, 2011 at 06:40 PM in reply to pete
      I am just curious if you are aware of the WI open carry law that has been on the books for years and requires NO class or training?
  • by David Location: Eau Claire on Sep 12, 2011 at 11:42 AM
    There are NO training requirements to open carry. CC just allows you to put on a jacket or have a loaded handgun in your vehicle. People need to take it upon themselves to get acquainted with the legalities. The requirements listed in order to get your CC are only to ensure you have a basic familiarity of safe gun handling.
  • by Typical on Sep 12, 2011 at 11:19 AM
    After all the assurances that only those properly trained would be able to carry concealed weapons, the truth comes out. The politicians who rammed this legislation through to score points with constituents, and the gun-nuts who mocked everyone's concerns about safety never cared about implementing safeguards. What a joke--and a dangerous one at that.
  • by sam Location: knapp on Sep 12, 2011 at 10:54 AM
    I am for ccw and I am already signed up for ccw training class even though I have my hunters safety card, I think it should be required to obtain the permit because ccw class is more about proper times to use and when not to use.
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      by Gary on Sep 12, 2011 at 01:57 PM in reply to sam
      I would have thought anyone thinking of carrying would already understand when to use or not use-
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